I don't know whether this helps but if you make 'MLO'  in your example a
Project (tick the Project box in the Task Properties), then its name will
appear at the beginning of each of the sub-tasks names.  

 

>From my point of view (and I think virtually all the other users of MLO),
the parent task is not something that we want to see in our To Do list  as a
task to work on - we have broken the parent task down into a series of
sub-tasks and it is these that we are working on.  Once these are complete,
the parent task can then pop up in the To Do list for us to review and
either say - 'Yes the whole thing is done' or 'No - there are still some
bits and pieces to do' but until that time, we are quite happy for it not
appear as a specific task.    Why do you want to see it in your ToDo list?

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mazey
Sent: 08 August 2012 9:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MLO] Task with subtasks in the To-Do panel?

 

I was just at exactly that point today. Struggling with the to-do view and
the concept of active tasks which was not obvious to me. Frankly, I still do
not understand why parent tasks should not be active too. Working on a
subtask to me means, this parent task is active, I am working on it.
And I still dont see why a parent is not finished when all parts are done.
For example I have one task for MLO (folder) with the subtasks "Look into
example files", "Read up user manual" and "ask remaining questions on
mailing list" - MLO itself is just the folder, container. I do not see how
else I could organize my tasks into categories. What I'd really like to
change is the main folders (like "MLO") showing up in to-do view. But that
is probably because they're seen as tasks, right?
To make things worse they are not topmost of the sub-tasks but at the
bottom, even when I try to sort by/group by parent. 

I must say today I am a bit frustrated and struggle with the whole concept.
I still have not found the right concept for me taking into consideration my
need to break things down into folders and categories.

Have a good evening everyone,

Brienne 

 

On 07.08.2012 20:17, Richard Collings wrote:

FWIW,  I would agree with Lisa and encourage you to adopt this approach.

 

However,  Lisa's example does raise an issue which has irritated me from
time to time. 

 

If when you return to the top level task after you have completed all the
sub-tasks and if all the sub-tasks are now hidden (because you have chosen
the hide completed option) and you add another sub-task, MLO adds it as the
first task in the list rather than the last (ie: if you add the new task and
then change to show all Completed Tasks,  your new task will be the first in
the list).

 

I cannot see a good reason for this - it would be better (IMV) if the new
task was added at the end of the list.

 

Richard

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisa Stroyan
Sent: 06 August 2012 5:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MLO] Task with subtasks in the To-Do panel?

 

Probably not. I should have been more clear...you *can* change your filter,
but you might not want to, in the long run. My suggestion would be to
rethink your task structure. The "Active" actions model of MLO is really
powerful and well-thought out, in my opinion, and trying to circumvent it is
going to lead to frustration. (And I'm not always a big fan of using
applications as the developer intended :)

 

What I do is use the parent task as the reminder to complete/wrap up any
loose ends after the children are done. So, look at it as the last task,
rather than the first. It will become active as soon as the children are no
longer active. If you want a "begin the project", make that the first task
in the tree. 

 

Sometimes you'll only want to see the first task. You can mark "complete in
order" on the parent if you only want to see the first task, but I find that
frustrating when I want to see all of the children at once after the first
task is complete. So to make all the rest of the children become active at
the same time, use dependencies. You can select all of the children at once
and add a dependency to the first task.  E.g:

 

Finish remodeling project

        Plan remodel details

        Call contractor

        Purchase materials

 

If I only wanted to see "Plan remodel details" then I could make the other
two tasks dependent on it, and they wouldn't be active until it is complete.

 

Going back to your original question, as soon as all of these children are
done, "Finish remodeling project" becomes active, and reminds you that you
might not really be done yet...in which case you can add more children
(finish remodel becomes inactive again, because it can't be marked off yet),
or you can complete it.

 

Lisa

 

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Patrick Piquette <[email protected]>
wrote:

That's exactly what I need, thank you very much :-)

 

Can I do the same on the iPhone iPad applications?

 

 

Pat

 

 



On Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:15:49 PM UTC-4, Lisa S wrote:

The reason they are not there is that parent tasks are not active until
their children are complete, and you are using a view that shows active
tasks only. Try switching to a different view or creating your own by taking
your favorite view and switching the Action Filter to "Available" or "All". 

The help has a good explanation of "Active".


Lisa

 

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Patrick Piquette <[email protected]>
wrote:


Is there a way to have tasks (regular, folder or project) with subtasks
appear in the to-do panel (windows application)?

 

Why do task with subtasks cannot be seen in the to-do panel eventhough it
has the context I filter in?

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