What is the package?

Sounds like you're in the first blush of wrapping your head around this stuff (e.g. GTD). Certainly you could do much, much, worse than starting with MLO as you begin your journey. I've no doubt we all wish you a successful one beyond your wildest hopes.

Your note reminds me that ThinkingRock is out there, too - which I haven't quite cottoned to.

Nothing wrong with java. At least well done java. I think much of the early java was so poor, vis a vis native desktop clients, that it's painting current java with the same brush, and java in general has yet to shake the unjustified stigma. TaskUnifier comes to mind as something that does pretty well, compared to much other java I've seen.

I've also been seeing that java isn't as universal as one might hope. (But, probably, is still leaps and bounds ahead of not having it at all.) Pimlical comes to mind. [Although how much of the windows java isn't directly runnable on Linux, and how much of their issue is the need to get on a universal db back end, such as sqlite, I don't know.)

On 12-11-20 03:03 AM, Jake01 wrote:
Unfortunately, nothing comes even close to MLO. I have looked hard, and
the only thing I found was an open source package which had some great
features, but written in Java (i think) and is just painful to interact
with (so ugly, etc) that it detracts from productivity, at least for me.

In the several months that I have really began using MLO, some
unexpected "properties" have emerged where I am relying on the software
substantially more than I ever thought I would. Perhaps this is a result
of implementing the first few milestones of GTD as well, but I am also
using MLO to visualize swaths of my life and to do substantial planning.
At this point, I would be happy to use the Windows software even if all
other platforms became unavailable. The only alternative I can think of
that would cover my specific use cases would be Microsoft Project! So
yes, it is somewhat uneasy to rely so heavily on an application from a
small shop, but as others have stated elsewhere, if anyone can pull it
off, these guys can, and have done a great job so far.

On Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:23:43 AM UTC-6, landis.a wrote:

    Very Thoughtful series of posts here.   Nice to hear the level of
    interest from everyone.   I have been struggling with the question
    of whether I want to "go down this road".

    *Plus Points:*

      * MLO is very capable
      * MLO will synch between Windows and Android
      * MLO is an Outliner with multiple levels AND GTD thought boiled
        into one
      * MLO's interface is generally nice to deal with (not always)

    *
    Minus Points:*

      * MLO is a Closed architecture  and does not want to talk with
        other systems.
      * MLO has no WebClient/Interface
      * MLO seems to have a slow development cycle (been waiting for 4.0
        to buy the PC software for a while now)
      * MLO is not a true "Hot Synch" in the modern sense.  There seem
        to be opportunities for corrupted synchs even with DropBox
      * MLO Android does not seem to have the same format as the Windows
        Machine, thus cannot be shared directly with DropBox
      * MLO is not OpenSource so there is no opportunity for community
        involvment in development


    On MLO's side, they seem to be doing what they do well.  They should
    have a Web version, and I feel they should also have a Linux and Mac
    Versions.  Current iterations of "any version" are often written in
    Python or Java.  Lots of folks are converging on the same
    battleground but no one has really taken the high ground yet by
    covering all the flanks.

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