I too would appreciate an option (I think it could be global? Not sure) to
add new tasks to the top of manually sorted lists.

I have no solutions for RTE.

One of the problems with inserting into a manually sorted list is that they
go in the tree next to their sibling.  But you could try this...Add a
placeholder task to Inbox, "------- Ins New task ------" or something, move
to the top of the view you add things from. Then you can press "Ins" while
on that task, and the new task will go just below it.

While I support the idea of keeping "not sure I will ever do this" tasks in
MLO, I can't imagine having them be in my daily/working lists. You could
consider keeping them in a different list.



On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:46 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok, I’m tapped out.****
>
> ** **
>
> To restate, you want a way to enter a new task****
>
> **-          **Entry must be via RTE****
>
> **-          **New task must appear at the top of a manually sorted to-do
> list****
>
> **-          **Use keyboard only, no mouse****
>
> ** **
>
> I think you would have to request a new keyword in the RTE parsing, like
> this****
>
> New task name @home –s 4d –top****
>
> ** **
>
> But I’m guessing that there are not a lot of other users wishing for this,
> so it might not get prioritized very high.****
>
> -Dwight****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ram Rachum
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 07, 2013 11:27 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [MLO] Re: Help: I use manual sorting, and I want new tasks
> to appear at TOP****
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:****
>
> Hi, Ram. ****
>
> First, I want to validate your approach of keeping tasks you are never
> going to do in MLO. I do that, and it feels to me to be totally consistent
> with the GTD approach of freeing your brain to do something productive by
> removing the need to hold and manage your task list. There are some tasks
> that come up repeatedly, like dismantling the swingset my adult children
> used when they were kids. I would like to do it someday but I know that
> someday will not come this year and probably not next; there’s a good
> chance it will not come in my lifetime. By putting the task in the
> someday/never section of my outline I have dealt with it and I don’t have
> to spend any more brainpower on it except for an annual review of my
> “never” tasks.****
>
>  ****
>
> Your situation is unusual because you want manual sorting without using
> the mouse. The mouse is very useful for tasks like manual sorting. But I
> think it can be done.****
>
>  ****
>
> I see what you mean about using Insert in Outline. I have a couple of
> tasks “test1” and “test2” at the top of my outline. I created a manually
> sorted to-do list and dragged test1 and test2 to the top two positions in
> the list. Then I went back to the outline, selected the top task (test1),
> hit the Insert key on my keyboard, and added a task “new”. Back to the
> to-do view, and “new” was at the bottom. Back to outline, cursor to the
> top, and used alt-insert to create a subtask of the top task. Back to to-do
> and subtask was at the bottom. So I see your issue.****
>
>  ****
>
> Question: why go to outline to create the tasks? It’s easy to put a new
> task at position #2 in the to-do, just <home>,<insert> and type the task
> name.****
>
> ** **
>
> There are 2 problems with that:****
>
> ** **
>
> 1. For some reason, when I create a task like this it gets created with
> urgency somewhere between 2 and 3. I have no idea why. My todo list doesn't
> show tasks with that low of an urgency.****
>
> ** **
>
> 2. It's much more convenient to insert tasks with the RTE dialog than with
> the normal MLO interface. (I never advocated inserting tasks in the
> Outline, it's Olivier who suggested it.)****
>
>  ****
>
> If I wanted to do this I would create a dummy top-of-list task and insert
> everything else just below it. Or is there an additional condition we
> should know about, such as maybe you want to have the tasks appear in a
> particular structure in the outline that’s different from the order you
> have them in for the to-do?****
>
> -Dwight****
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