Hi, Stéph, and thanks for your response.

I think that the major issue is that it seems wrong to you to have project 
related tasks prior to the project start; to me, it's not only acceptable but 
necessary. I guess it's the diffetence between the way my business and yours 
work. MLO should not make eithet of us convett to the other's way of doing 
business.  Here's a different example.

I'm bidding on a contract that requires delivery of a draft in three weeks,  a 
proof in fove weeks and the finished product in six. To me this is a six week 
project from start date to due date with some subtasks pegged to intervening 
due dates. It's importart to me that project start date be the date on which I 
start tge project. It will take me two days to prepare and deliver my proposal 
and bid. The proposal and bid process is an integral part of the project which 
takes place before the project start date.

I cannot see any way to make your option one work for me.

Options two and three are the same to me. Each one involves an actual project 
as well as a pseudo-project called "bid for project". I could do that but it 
seems unnecessarily complex and not at all helpful. 
-Dwight
Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2

On Feb 6, 2014, "Stéph" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hello Dwight.  I'd deal with that in one of three ways:
>1) have the early / prep works as part of the project and accept that
>the project has effectively started once you start carrying out those
>activities;
>2) set up a separate project (called "… enabling works") for those
>early tasks;
>3) set up sub-projects and mark them as not started / in progress /
>suspended, whilst the overall project remains in progress from as soon
>as the early work starts.
>
>That's the way we tend to do it when setting up our project programmes
>in our business. The idea of having a project which is not started or
>which is suspended but which has tasks I've got to do just doesn't
>sound quite right to me.
>
>Stéphane

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