To get clear:

In MLO, it appears that the sort order of "Next Actions by Project" does 
use the Urgency & Importance of the Project itself, even though it isn't 
even showing those fields(!). In fact would argue that the fact that there 
it fails to show the importance & urgency fields of the Project - (but 
bizarrely it does show both for the Task itself) - is effectively a bug. 
i.e. Why is it sorting by something that it isn't showing to the user?!

This is deeply irritating because you cant actually see which Projects are 
supposed to be Urgent and/or Important in this ("Next Actions by Project") 
view.

Even more irritating is that if you click on a Project in the "Next Actions 
by Project" view, you can't either change or even see the Urgency or 
Importance of that project in the Properties dialogue box on the right hand 
side of the screen. And you are forced to go back to the Outline view to 
see what is actually going on at the Project level. In fact even if you 
manually format or "highlight" a project in the "Outline - All Tasks" view, 
still that highlighting also fails to appear visually on the Next Actions 
by Project view.

This all means that "Next Actions by Project" is an absolutely *terrible* place 
for seeing what is Imporant and/or Urgent, even though that is how the 
projects are in fact sorted!

My only workaround seems to be to use the tickbox called "Complete subtasks 
in order" for the Project and use the view called "Active Actions", which 
is of course sorted by the Urgency & Importance of the (just) one subtask 
which is left visible, compared to the Urgency & Importance of the other 
subtask. This view does of course ignore the Urgency & Importance of the 
actual projects though!

Any suggestions?

J

On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 2:39:49 AM UTC, John Smith wrote:
>
>
> > It's my opinion that you are using "next actions" together with 
> "subtasks in order" where you should be using "next actions" only.
> Yikes, er yes, you may well be correct! 
>
> BUT 
> I dont like the "Next Actions by Project" for several reasons (see below). 
> Meanwhile is it possible to set up "Next Actions" (with one next action 
> for each project) that looks like "Active Actions" but without the line 
> showing the Project name?
>
> It appears that the sort order of "Next Actions by Project" does 
> determines the sort order of Project by using the Project Urgency & 
> Importance, even though it isnt even showing those fields(!). In fact would 
> argue that the fact that there fails to show the importance & urgency of 
> the project, (but does show both for the Next Task) is effectively a bug. 
> This is irritating because you cant actually see what is supposed to be 
> Urgent and/or Important being highlighted as being such.
>
> Even more irritating is that if you click on a project in the "Next 
> Actions by Project" view you can't either change or even see the Urgency or 
> Importance of that project - you are forced to go back to the Outline view. 
> In fact even if you manually format or "highlight" a project in the 
> "Outline - All Tasks" view, still that highlighting fails to appear 
> visually on the Next Actions by Project view.
>
> Btw, on the "Next Actions by Project" view, how can I make the Project 
> stop being bold?
>
> Thanks
>
> J
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 1, 2014 3:18:23 PM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>
>> Hi, John. It's my opinion that you are using "next actions" together with 
>> "subtasks in order" where you should be using "next actions" only.
>>
>> Next actions is implemented as: from each project or folder, show only 
>> the first active subtask.  "First" is determined by position within the 
>> outline. If the first subtask isn't active (ie is blocked) the following 
>> subtask gets considered, and so on. I think that this is what you want.
>>
>> Subtasks in order adds a constraint that no subtask will be considered 
>> active if there's an uncompleted subtask in the same project or folder, 
>> higher in the outline.  Even if the higher task is inactive/blocked. 
>> -Dwight
>> Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2014, John Smith <shi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi 
>>>
>>> I have a question about Next Actions.
>>>
>>> Background:
>>> In alignment with GTD theory, and to prevent overwhelm, I generally like 
>>> seeing only ONE Next Action (i.e. not the whole list of actions) per 
>>> Project.
>>> For this reason I want essentially all my Projects to have "Complete the 
>>> subtasks in order" ticked.
>>>
>>> Problem:
>>> BUT if the Next Action happens to be delayed so that I have a start date 
>>> for it in the future, then when I click on "Active Actions", suddenly there 
>>> are NO active actions at all visible for that project.
>>> Likewise it also disappears from the Next Actions by Project view  :^(
>>>
>>> Is there any way around this?
>>>
>>> i.e. Is there any way for a project to show the Next Action that is not 
>>> delayed?!
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>>  
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