I just heard about that book from someone else! It sounded like a nice spin
on it.
On Aug 4, 2015 6:10 PM, "Stephen Jones" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Lisa,
>
> From what you have said, one book you might find useful is Essentialism by
> Greg McKeown. The approach it sets out is one that would seem to address
> some of the issues you have raised. I do not fully subscribe to everything
> in the book, but it has helped me to develop an approach to productivity
> that suits me and has taken the stress out of not getting everything done
> or even spending some time "doing nothing". I am actually achieving more by
> doing less.
>
> Regards
>
> Stephen J
>
>
> On Tuesday, 4 August 2015 23:50:37 UTC+10, Lisa S wrote:
>>
>> Just wanted to chime in on this thread . I think this article title is
>> misleading as to what the article discusses ( in the opposite way from your
>> point, John , but both are true). I don't see having to clear all the tasks
>> in your head out as necessary for the mindful practices that have been
>> shown to help health and productivity, and I was expecting a different kind
>> of "do-nothing" than they describe, more along the lines of time resetting
>> the nervous system out of the constant stress, fight or flight mode that
>> task management tends to pull me into .
>>
>> I am very intrigued by the concept the title itself implies. I do think
>> that such activities – relaxing in nature, meditation, exercise, morning
>> pages journaling, a discipline like the one I do, Tai Chi Chih – for me are
>> having a profound effect on my relationship with my task list and all of
>> the shoulds. An amazing amount of effort goes into anxiety in our
>> culture... staggering, really , I'm realizing for myself anyway. I haven't
>> yet learned to channel that anxiety into productivity, but I am learning to
>> turn it off and not have my health be impacted by it .
>>
>> If anyone knows of books that combine mindful approaches with daily
>> productivity, I would be interested in hearing about them. ( if you feel
>> like it, copy your response to [email protected] :).
>>
>> The book that is completely changing my life right now, though it might
>> not be a good fit for many of you :-) Is, "The Life-Changing Magic of
>> Tidying up " . (People's can poo-poo it all they want, and they do, but
>> it's going across the world like wildfire, and for a reason :-)
>>
>> It's this short, poorly organized and not particularly well-written,
>> translation of a Japanese book that is ostensibly about deciding what items
>> in your house you would like to keep because they are joyful/appreciated,
>> and seems like just another twist on other organizing methods, that instead
>> has hidden in it a gem of a process that has clarified what's been missing
>> for me for 25 years in how I deal with my belongings and is now changing
>> how I see my actions through the day and even my life perspective a
>> little.  (Sidenote:it doesn't seem like it makes a lot of sense, it appeals
>> more to women than men, and it doesn't work well IMO unless it's embraced
>> as is rather than being analyzed to death and tweaked, all probably making
>> it a poor fit for most of this list :-)
>>
>> I haven't yet gotten to the point of applying this process to my task
>> list, but it's going to take a while and probably be quite amazing and
>> freeing. I have thousands of "aspirational" tasks collected over the years
>> (just as I've collected aspirational clutter – that stuff that reminds me
>> of actions I wanted to take but never got to and now have become guilt)
>> that are sitting in MLO and weighing me down. (many of them captured from
>> my brain using GTD but then never let go of because I was so running around
>> trying to do the tasks that I never did a review process consistently , but
>> also from time management books that encourage keeping of everything in
>> your system, but never say to let it go - "just move it to a someday list"
>> :-) . It will be interesting to see what kind of the task management
>> solution I end up with in MLO when I'm done. I wouldn't be at all surprised
>> to see a book come out of it but it might be a few years . …
>>
>> Lisa, who has pretty much abandoned you all due to health issues but
>> getting better slowly
>> On Jul 24, 2015 6:06 AM, "John Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> What do you make of this interesting article?
>>>
>>> http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/productive-people-do-nothing/1107640/
>>>
>>> Apparently the key to productivity is not blasting through (endless)
>>> to-do lists flat out, nope - not even nicely prioritized ones. No,
>>> according to David Allen the trick is to create enough 'space' in your mind
>>> in order to think clearly. The way to do this can be either to deliberately
>>> put stuff off or to deliberately not do most of the stuff on your list at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> I think the title is slightly disingenuous - highly productive people
>>> don't JUST sit around "doing nothing", but nonetheless spending a
>>> significant amount of time doing nothing is extremely important nonetheless
>>> to one's overall productivity.
>>>
>>> Food for thought, no?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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