Dwight

Just one small point:

> 2. Fill in the fields, [starred] [is false] [and]
should surely read:
> 2. Fill in the fields, [starred] [is *true*] [and]

Otherwise... Brilliant! (as ever)

Re the usability of the interface I caught myself saying out loud
"You have got to be joking.  Un bl**dy believable."
and
"You practically need to do a PhD on it to work it out."

Many thanks

J


On 11 October 2015 at 22:49, Dwight Arthur <[email protected]> wrote:

> Before we start this new subject let's be totally clear that MLO's
> approach to Boolean grouping is insufferably arcane and tedious. There's no
> excuse for such a difficult interface, except perhaps that no one except
> the hopeless geeks will even try to use it. The whole thing feels as though
> it was designed in 1963. So John, please don't feel as though you need to
> convince me that it could be improved.
>
> I'm going to describe this in small steps. I know that you know much of
> this already but I'm also writing this for future readers who stumbl onto
> this post.
>
> In the Setup Advanced Filtering window
> 1. hit the Add Rule button
> 2. Fill in the fields, [starred] [is false] [and]
> 3. hit the Add Rule button again. The first rule collapses to "(starred)
> AND"
> 4. Do Not Enter Any Fields In The New (second) Rule!!!
> 5. Hit the Add Subrule button. The second rule collapses to ">"
> 6. Fill in the fields in the first subrule, [StartDateTime] [OnOrBefore]
> [Now] [Or
>
> 7. Hit the Add Rule button. Maybe you would like to hit Add Subrule but
> that would be incorrect. Thefirst subrule collapses without much change.
> 8. Fill in the fields in the second subrule [startDateTime] [does not
> exist]. Ignore the trailing conjunction, it's nugatory.
> 9. Hit the [-] button before the second (empty) rule. The two subrules
> collapse to "((StartDateTime on or beforeNow) OR (StartDateTime does not
> exist))"
>
> Voila, there are your brackets.
>
> BTW Now is an undocumented but supported variable. You can make it even
> more valuable by doing math with it. For example, to see all the tasks that
> you have postponed for two hours, try
> ((StartDateTime on or after Now) AND (StartDateTime on or before Now + 2H))
>
> -Dwight
> MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2
> On 10/11/2015 9:54 AM, John . Smith wrote:
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ok new problem. I put things into the future quite a lot e.g. using hotkey
> "Alt/S" followed by "2H" so that it disappears for 2 hours.
>
> That aspect of what it means to be "Active" was helpful for me. But now
> with "All" actions showing these tasks are not disappearing.
>
> In Advanced rules I already have "Starred is true" so I added AND
>  "StartDateTime" - "on or before" - "now",
> however the result is that items that do now have a Start Date set are
> removed!
> (Fwiw, "now" appears to be undocumented... but seems to work )
>
> What I need is
> "Starred is true" AND
> ( "StartDateTime" - "on or before" - "now",  OR
>   "StartDateTime" - "does not exist"  )
>
> However I can't work out how to put the brackets in !
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 2:17:14 PM UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
>> Don't overlook the [Config] button to the right of Show Hierarchy. You
>> might find it useful,  for example, to set a parent filter that includes
>> parents only if they are starred.
>>
>> Caution: filtered hierarchies can be confusing. For example,  if you show
>> starred tasks and their starred parents, and a starred task has an
>> unstarred parent and a starred grandparent,  the parent will be shown to
>> protect the integrity of the hierarchy even though that seems to violate
>> the parent filter.  Also, if your filter produces overlapping subtrees they
>> will be merged which can produce confusing results until you figure out
>> what's happening.
>> -Dwight
>> Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2015, "John . Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I just rediscovered the "Show Hierarchy" (Y/N) option which is great. I
>> shall now experiment with using both!
>>
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