I have made that mistake once, but not this time. Only one Inbox! I have decided to look at the manual sync issues positively. I'll limit my use of Mark Forster's systems to the Android, and view that as a bonus facility which comes with the Android platform. I always have my phone with me and the Windows version is very useful for inboxing and multiple-select operations.
That way I can enjoy all the benefits and look-and-feel of the Android app without trying to manipulate it with extra contexts/stars/sorting tricks! Thanks so much for all your time and suggestions. :)) Laurence On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 10:22:55 PM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: > > Is there any chance that you have more than one inbox? > -Dwight > MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4 > > On Dec 20, 2015, Laurence Glazier <laurence.glaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Update - I found that if I set the context for Inbox on the Android >> device, new items added inherit it. >> >> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 2:23:07 PM UTC, Laurence Glazier wrote: >>> >>> That's strange, Dwight, I am using the same handset, a Note 4. I will >>> look at this more closely and see if I can fix it before contacting support. >>> >>> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 5:15:31 AM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: >>>> >>>> Laurence, on my Samsung Note 4 running Android 5.1.1 and MLO 2.0.14 new >>>> tasks added to the inbox inherit the context of the inbox folder. I have >>>> tried adjusting settings that seem as though they might have an impact but >>>> no matter what i do the inheritance continues to occur. I have no idea why >>>> it is not happening for you and I would suggest that you write to >>>> sup...@mylifeorganized.net >>>> -Dwight >>>> MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4 >>>> >>>> On Dec 19, 2015, Laurence Glazier <laurence.glaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A quick update. Using contexts seems to work quite well. One problem >>>>> you may be able to advise on. I ascribed the context "New none" to the >>>>> Inbox, and all tasks I inbox in Windows automatically get this context, >>>>> but >>>>> on Android, whether I use the widget or the app to inbox intems, the >>>>> context is not set, so I have to do it by editing. Is there an Android >>>>> setting to make this automatic? >>>>> >>>>> I have just made a query about these issues on Mark Forster's website >>>>> at >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://markforster.squarespace.com/blog/2015/5/21/the-final-version-perfected-fvp.html?postSubmitted=true¤tPage=3#comments >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 4:23:28 PM UTC, Laurence Glazier >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Dwight I might choose the path of outline based views. For the >>>>>> moment I have been tweaking the importance slider but I can see this may >>>>>> get harder as time goes on! >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried a different approach today, by using the Active by Context >>>>>> view. To move a task to the bottom of the list, I would set a context >>>>>> based >>>>>> on a date stamp, e.g. 151219/1 etc, which effectively puts it to the >>>>>> bottom >>>>>> of the list. In time, as these contexts become emptied, they would be >>>>>> deleted. However the synchronisation from Windows to Android did not >>>>>> work >>>>>> well. Tasks without contexts did not always show on the Android, but >>>>>> sometimes did. By creating a new context and putting all items without a >>>>>> context into it (called "New None") seemed to fix it. I may persevere >>>>>> with >>>>>> this idea for a while. >>>>>> >>>>>> I need to understand this aspect of MLO better. Even if it does not >>>>>> solve the immediate issue it is bound to help me in the future :) >>>>>> >>>>>> I might pose these questions, with a link to this thread, on a >>>>>> similar forum on Mark Forster's website which I think may have a number >>>>>> of >>>>>> MLO users. >>>>>> >>>>>> Laurence >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 3:40:20 AM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You mention an important point. In a to-do list view, the included >>>>>>> tasks are shown in a flat list either ordered according to a defined >>>>>>> set of >>>>>>> sort rules or else ordered according to a manual sort. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Outline views in contrast show the included tasks in a hierarchical >>>>>>> list. Most of the time, the entire view is ordered according to the >>>>>>> order >>>>>>> the tasks are in within the underlying profile. If you specify a sort >>>>>>> rule >>>>>>> in a hierarchical view, it will be used to sort the top level items; >>>>>>> tasks >>>>>>> in the branch below each top level item are unsorted, that is they are >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the order of the underlying profile outline. So if you re-order tasks >>>>>>> within a folder, you are actually reorganizing the underlying outline, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> these changes will be synched. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can build custom hierarchical views that zoom in to a particular >>>>>>> branch, or that exclude any item whose contexts are all closed, or >>>>>>> limit >>>>>>> the display to active tasks (ie not hidden, no future start date, etc). >>>>>>> Maybe something like this would serve you better. >>>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>>> MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2 >>>>>>> On 12/17/2015 5:44 PM, Laurence Glazier wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Dwight >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will try something like that for the time being, and see how well >>>>>>> it works for me. I can revert to using Active Starred view, and >>>>>>> starring >>>>>>> every task, which works though does not make the application shine! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If there is a solution we have both overlooked, I suspect it is in >>>>>>> outline based views rather than to-do list ones. It may be that >>>>>>> synchronizing other manually ordered views will be needed to solve this >>>>>>> one. And by then Mark Forster may well have come up with new >>>>>>> refinements to >>>>>>> his methods! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Laurence >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:38:44 PM UTC, Dwight Arthur >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the link to FVP, it was an interesting read. I had been >>>>>>>> going to suggest something about using dependencies to form tasks into >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> chain but its clear that this would not help manage FVP. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I wanted to do this: I would use Importance. I would start by >>>>>>>> multiselecting all of the tasks in a chain and setting importance to >>>>>>>> zero. >>>>>>>> Then, whenever I want to put an FVP "dot" on a task I would up the >>>>>>>> importance by one >>>>>>>> - <alt>2, <alt>2, tab, right-arrow >>>>>>>> - if <general> section in task properties is collapsed, only one >>>>>>>> <alt>tab is needed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The next task I wanted to dot, I would set importance to two. Same >>>>>>>> hotkey sequence except two taps on the right-arrow key. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> somewhere around ten I would stop counting taps and just hold down >>>>>>>> the right arrow key until importance gets into the neighborhood, then >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>> right arrow or left arrow to fine-tune it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If the last task I dotted got importance 27 and I need to add a new >>>>>>>> task, I would add it with importance 28 and the next task dotted would >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> 29. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would work from a view that zoomed to a particular folder and >>>>>>>> displayed tasks sorted in order on ascending importance. Each folder >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> its own sequence of importance values and you have to remember the >>>>>>>> current >>>>>>>> value so that you can assign a value one higher to the next dotted or >>>>>>>> added >>>>>>>> task. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you want to use FVP to select which task to do next across >>>>>>>> multiple folders? If so then the view should include all of the >>>>>>>> candidate >>>>>>>> folders and they should share a single sequence of importance values >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> drawbacks of this method: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. you need to use your own memory to track the next importance >>>>>>>> value for each chain. That, or else check the bottom of the view >>>>>>>> every time. >>>>>>>> 2. If you use the contents of different folders together in >>>>>>>> varying combinations you will need to assign a single string of >>>>>>>> importance >>>>>>>> numbers across folders >>>>>>>> 3. I suppose that every once in a while the rankings get stale >>>>>>>> and the piece of paper gets messy and you start over with a fresh >>>>>>>> sheet, >>>>>>>> right? The equivalent of this would be setting importance for all >>>>>>>> tasks >>>>>>>> back to zero. If you have more than 200 dotted or new tasks between >>>>>>>> resets >>>>>>>> you will run out of importance values. In that case I would set >>>>>>>> urgency for >>>>>>>> all affected tasks to zero at the reset as well, and after >>>>>>>> assigning >>>>>>>> importance number 200 to some task the next task would get urgency >>>>>>>> 1 and >>>>>>>> importance one, then urgency one and importance two and so on up to >>>>>>>> urgency >>>>>>>> one and importance two hundred, then urgency two and importance one >>>>>>>> and so >>>>>>>> on. By the time you get to urgency 200 and importance 200 you will >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> dotted 40,000 tasks which I think would be more than enough. Your >>>>>>>> view >>>>>>>> would then be sorted by urgency ascending and then importance >>>>>>>> ascending, >>>>>>>> next task at the bottom. This allows you longer lists but it's more >>>>>>>> complex >>>>>>>> and more to remember >>>>>>>> 4. Mobile: the lists and views will synch well and display >>>>>>>> well, but it could be terribly difficult on Android (and, I assume, >>>>>>>> iPhone) >>>>>>>> to assign an importance value of 7 (not 6 or 8) to a task. There's >>>>>>>> a slider >>>>>>>> that could be used but you would need a stylus to make fine-tuning >>>>>>>> adjustments and there's no confirmation of what number the slider >>>>>>>> is set >>>>>>>> to. So in my opinion you would need to analyze your queue and >>>>>>>> decide what >>>>>>>> you want to work on, on Windows and you could use mobile platforms >>>>>>>> to tick >>>>>>>> off completed tasks, capture new tasks, and have a peek at what's >>>>>>>> pending. >>>>>>>> 5. when a view gets longer than what fits on one page I could >>>>>>>> have trouble doing this. But I guess that drawback applies when >>>>>>>> doing it on >>>>>>>> paper as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 2:59:57 AM UTC-5, Laurence >>>>>>>> Glazier wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sounds intriguing! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As I understand it, each successive activity in the chain is more >>>>>>>>> desirable (or less undesirable) than the preceding one. The last one >>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>> chain is always the preferred one from the entire list. You work on >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> one. 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