Would you be interested in posting a summary list of your unanswered key questions to this forum?
On May 11, 2016, Tolqua <[email protected]> wrote: >Thanks for your input Francesco. > >I'm afraid my experience of support is nowhere near as good as yours. >I've >been evaluating MLO for over a month and had a few replies back within >24 >hours, but a similar number have taken significantly longer. However, >the >quality hasn't been great with some 'answers' repeated several times >even >after I'd made it clear I'd 'got it' and a number of key questions >still >remain unanswered despite reminders. perhaps the most worrying thing, >though, is that I've had no response from support at all to my last >four >messages. Not sure what's going on at MLO, but I don't care how good >the >product is if I can't get support. > >I'm not sure what you mean about Todoist pushing social connections >(not >thinking of Wunderlist, are you), but I don't think it's entirely valid >to >dismiss it as a marketing tool. I can see it doesn't have the power >and >flexibility of MLO, but it has some great features, a much wider user >base >and their support is in a different league. > >Tolqua. > >On Tuesday, 26 April 2016 16:28:04 UTC+1, Francesco Consoli wrote: > >> I found the support side good enough. Support is separated from >developers. >> They answer in 12hr average. Not bad at all. >> I didn't look at number of developers only (when i chose MLO), I >looked at >> number of years they are up and running. >> May be they have some issues (normal) on support side. I suggest you >to >> keep on asking for help through support email. >> >> PS! Todoist is just a big marketing product. They push on social >> connections, but it is still a simple to-do list with tags. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original message ----- >> From: Tolqua <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> To: MyLifeOrganized <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> Subject: Re: [MLO] Daily checklists in MLO >> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 00:14:22 -0700 (PDT) >> >> Hi Dwight. >> >> Not having a great deal of success here. I'm spending more time >writing >> these posts and sending questions to MLO support than I'm saving >using the >> program. This is to be expected at such an early stage, but there >are >> limits and if I'm not seeing any light at the end of the tunnel I'll >have >> to call it a day and try something else (Todoist seems to have much >better >> support, but I just couldn't get started with the unhelpfully 'clean' >UI). >> I've made a specific request for some input on this here, but no luck >so >> far and I'm still waiting for a response to my last set of questions. > >> Looks like it's just one guy handling support and the quality isn't >great. >> >> Here's a copy of the message which brings you up to speed with where >I am: >> >> >> >> I’ve made a start and had some success using Folders for the lists >with >> the list items appearing as recurring Tasks (which accommodates the >> differing recurrences of the items), but I’m having some problems: >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. >> >> I’ve set a daily recurrence pattern for the list Folders, but >since >> they’re folders, they don’t get completed so how’s the recurrence >supposed >> to work? I’ve set them so they’ll regenerate when all Tasks are >done but >> that doesn’t seem to have created new folders – they’re still >showing >> yesterday’s date: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I have the reminder set to get triggered from the list rather than >the >> individual tasks (that’s the point of the checklist) so if it doesn’t >get >> regenerated I don’t get a reminder. What’s the point of allowing >> recurrence options on a folder if it can’t be completed and doesn’t >get >> automatically regenerated when all its tasks are complete? >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. >> >> When I tap on the Folder’s reminder (on the phone) it takes me to >the >> folder, but I can’t see how to get to the Tasks inside – This is >the same >> whether it’s a Folder or a Task. >> >> >> 2. >> >> How do I Skip a recurring Task (it’s not required today so I don’t > >> want to mark it as done, but I do need to check it off the list >and >> regenerate the next instance)? >> >> You can also see from the screen-shot that I have a couple of empty >> erronrous duplicated <Inbox> folders. I have no idea how these got >> created, but they only appeared after I'd done a Wi-Fi sync. I've >asked >> MLO support for some help, but they just said to delete them. This I >can >> do, but it isn't the first time I've seen them so it probably won't >be the >> last. >> >> I'm a bit concerned now about the slowness of my progress and am >beginning >> to doubt that MLO's suitable for my needs. I don't mind putting in >the >> effort, but I'm seeing what looks like upredictable (buggy?) >behaviour, the >> support's not great and you're the only one to have given any input >here. >> Also, despite looking awesomely powerful and configurable, MLO's a >bit >> daunting in its complexity. I've also had some unnecessary questions > >> regarding the rather limited Wi-Fi sync that could easily have been >avoided >> if the documentation were clearer, but pointing this out didn't get a >great >> response. For now I'm pushing ahead, but life's too short to waste >time >> going down roads that lead to more work so I'm also taking another >look >> around. >> >> Thanks again for your time. >> >> Tolqua. >> >> >> On Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:37:50 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote: >> >> Hi, Tolqua, glad to meet you. This forum is a good place for advice >on >> issues like this. MLO is good at ad hoc task list but so are dozens >of >> other task managers, some of which are probably better than MLO at >the most >> basic stuff. Where MLO really shines is when you spend the ime to >figure >> out what tasks you need to see when, and set up a system of contexts, > >> filters, etc that lets MLO manage that for you. You seem to be >totally >> headed in the right direction. >> >> As you say, there are probably many ways to address what you are >trying to >> do. If I wanted to do this the first thing I would try would involve >> dependencies on repeating trigger tasks. I will explain. Disclaimer: >I have >> not tried this. I am not certain that I fully understand dependencies >on >> repeating trigger tasks. My usual practice is to test any advice I'm >unsure >> of, but I don't have time right now. So I'm going to share untested >advice, >> please come back and report on what you do next (if you are lucky >some >> other user will show up with advice better than mine) and if you need >it, I >> may be able to help with debugging or further refinements next week. >> >> OK, so what I would do would be to create a recurring task for each >> checklist (Morning Checklist, recurring daily at 7am, Going Home >checklist >> recurring weekdays at 4:45pm, etc). I would then set up each of the >tasks >> that belongs in each checklist, each with its own recurrence schedule > >> (example, pack lunch recurring weekly on MoTuThFr). Here is an >important >> gotcha: if there is a start time it *must* be before the start time >of the >> checklist header. Otherwise it will be tomorrow's task. And I would >feel >> safer if the task start time was well in advance of the header's >start >> time. Make sure that any conditions for the task to go active >(open/closed >> contexts, dependencies, delayed dependencies, tasks in order, >uncompleted >> subtasks, etc) are all resolved *before* the header task is >activated. You >> can create a reminder for each header task if you want it to appear >on the >> phone's notification bar: I think it should work as you want but I am >not >> sure because I don't use reminders often. >> >> So, by 4:40 any weekday there will be a collection of tasks that are >all >> ready to go except for one thing: they are dependent on the >uncompleted >> "Going Home Checklist" task, which is itself inactive pending its >4:45 >> start time. The dependent tasks will consequently all be considered >> inactive and will not appear on any list of active actions. at 4:45 >the >> Going Home Checklist header task will reach its start time and become > >> active, appearing on your active actions list. Presumably at about >that >> time the reminder will go off. Soon afterwards you will check the >> completion box on the header task. Because it is a recurring task it >will >> not become completed; it will regenerate for the next weekday >afternoon. >> But during this regeneration process anything that was dependent on >the >> header task will see the dependency satisfied and will become active, > >> appearing in your active actions list. >> >> hth >> -Dwight >> >> >> On 4/20/2016 6:30 PM, Tolqua wrote: >> >> I've just started using MLO, syncing between my Windows desktop and >Nexus >> 5 via Wi-Fi. I'm fine with using ad-hoc tasks and organising them in >> Outline view, but I now want to set up a system to deal with a >particular >> type of recurring tasks. >> >> >> >> I have noticed that there are two or three times in my day where a >> ‘checklist’ of items to be completed would be extremely useful (e.g. >Before >> going to work, Before going home, etc.). The items on the list would >all >> be recurrent items, but with differing patterns (e.g. every working >day, >> every three days, alternate Wednesdays, etc.) so each day’s lists >will be >> different – or different enough that a repeat cycle could be >potentially >> very long. >> >> >> >> >> >> The items on the lists would all be simple tasks without sub-tasks >> (probably) that simply need to be checked off – whether that’s >achieved by >> marking a task complete or simply by putting a check mark in a box is >not >> important. What is important is to have the lists appear on my To Do > >> list or Action List as just the checklist name (e.g. Morning >Checklist) >> with the items on the list hidden until the list is opened. This is >> important so that the space on my daily Action List isn’t filled with >all >> the regular routine stuff on the checklists. The checklist should >> probably have a reminder. Since I’m in the habit of checking the >status >> bar at the top of my Nexus 5 whenever I pick it up, this tends to be >my >> immediate action list as it’s available to all apps, not just MLO. >The >> reminder, unless Snoozed or Cancelled, should take me straight to the >open >> checklist or to the Action List with the checklist highlighted so >that one >> more tap would open up the checklist ready for me to go through the >things >> on the list. The list would need to stay open or be available until >I’d >> checked off all the items, at which point the checklist would >disappear >> from the Action List until the next day (or be greyed-out or changed >in >> some way so it’s clear it’s complete). >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not sure whether the checklist itself would need a recurrence >pattern >> and how it would relate to the recurrence patterns of the items, but >in the >> unlikely event that none of the checklist items was due to appear on >the >> list, the list should either appear empty or not appear at all. >> >> >> >> >> >> It doesn't sound too complicated and I'm sure it's well within the >> capabilities of MLO, but I need some guidance as to the best way to >set it >> up. Should I make each checklist a Project with the items as Tasks or > >> make each checklist as a Task with the items as Sub-Tasks? How do I >have >> the checklist appear on the To Do List, but hide the items until the >> checklist is opened? How can I have the checklist disappear when all >the >> items have been either checked off or ‘skipped’ (not done, but with >the >> next occurrence in the pattern generated)? >> >> >> >> >> >> There may be many ways to achieve this and I’m sure I’ll have a lot >more >> questions once I start using it, but for now I just need to get it up >and >> running enough to be able to start working with it on a daily basis >so any >> help/suggestions will be most welcome. >> >> >> Tolqua. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups >> "MyLifeOrganized" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> ><https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/fe4eab08-aa04-4d93-8f67-4fbb7410391f%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> >https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/fe4eab08-aa04-4d93-8f67-4fbb7410391f%40googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> ><https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/fe4eab08-aa04-4d93-8f67-4fbb7410391f%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups >> "MyLifeOrganized" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >send an >> email to >> ><https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/fe4eab08-aa04-4d93-8f67-4fbb7410391f%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/34052e0c-968c-4fc5-907d-abb7c0182888%40googlegroups.com > >> ><https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/34052e0c-968c-4fc5-907d-abb7c0182888%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> Email had 1 attachment: >> >> - Auto Generated Inline Image 1 >> 272k (image/png) >> >> >> -- Sent with K-@ Mail - the evolution of emailing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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