Hi Dwight

Don't really know why my posts don't appear right away, but I hope you get 
to see this one.

A lot of people tell me that scheduling is a trap, but I really can't 
understand why. Maybe I don't explain myself correctly, I don't mean day 
and time 3 months from now.

I just mean Sunday night / Monday Morn, see my different projects both 
business and personal and assign a day of the week for them. And each day 
try to get the musts done, then high priority. To me an important part of 
task management is scheduling, I know we all work differently, I just don't 
do well with a bunch of tasks on my list of all areas and just get done 
what I feel like, the way I do it allows me to get a bit of all areas and 
projects into my week and make progress, since I focus on the 80/20 of the 
day, progress is there even if I don't finish all.

I might be using contexts and a view context view. What do you think?

thanks!





On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 4:11:48 PM UTC-5, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
> Hi, Emilio. If you are already familiar with the G*etting Things Done* (GTD) 
> methodology by David Allen please delete this email. If you are not, 
> perhaps you should check one of his books out of a library and have a read. 
> You don't have to follow GTD to use MLO, and a lot of people (like me) 
> start out following GTD and then modify and customize it. But people who 
> use MLO are usually trying to spend less time *managing* their tasks and 
> more time working on their tasks, and GTD is one of the most effective ways 
> of accomplishing that.
>
> To me, assigning dates to tasks is a trap. It's ok if the task is 
> inherently dated, like registering for a permit on the day on which 
> registration opens. But if I am assigning a date just to prevent a task 
> from lingering, I am starting to dig myself into a hole. Instead, I work on 
> a task at or near the top of my to-do list. I use MLO to ensure that the 
> next thing I should work on gets high on the list. The GTD methodology 
> describes ways of doing that.
>
> I  am generally pretty accurate in estimating how long a task will take, 
>  but I consistently underestimate how much time I will spend on 
> interruptions and unplanned tasks like unjamming the printer. As a 
> consequence, when I manage by dates, I end most days with unfinished tasks. 
> I end up spending time rescheduling when I could have been getting one or 
> two more things done. To make it worse, I often end up rescheduling tasks 
> onto days that are already overcommitted, makingfor an even bigger 
> reschedulin effort some day in the future.
>
> I  know that there are definitely people who unexpected MLO who schedule 
> their tasks, maybe one of them will comment.
>
> Just one hint: instead of starting two copies of MLO try this: bring up 
> one of your views, then hit f3. This creates a new window with a snapshot 
> of your view. Go back to the main window and bring up the other view. You 
> can tile the two windows next to each other. The snapshot view has limited 
> functionality but you can drag tasks back and forth without needing a 
> second instance.
> -Dwight 
>
> On August 20, 2016 12:48:39 PM Emilio Jimenez <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> thanks SRhyse!
>>
>> Well actually it works for me very well. Because part of my Workflow is 
>> marking the "must do" of important projects. And then drop them at 
>> different days, with other tasks. And mark the priority.
>>
>> The since each tasks has a guesstimated time, then I know I might have 
>> tons of tasks one day, but they are emails so I can get a bunch done in 1 
>> hour, versus 2 tasks that take 2 hours each another day. So number of tasks 
>> is really not that important vs duration.
>>
>> Unless it is a meeting or something that needs specific time, I do not 
>> assign the time for the task until that days morning, I just let it linger 
>> off my to do list until I reach the day I assigned at the begining of the 
>> week.
>>
>> Of course sometimes I don't do everything, but since I marked my musts 
>> and priorities, if anything is left it is either delegated, deleted or 
>> moved to another day. And of course if I finish early then I start planing 
>> the next day, of do other day task I feel like doing.
>>
>> The thing is to focus on the musts, and if something comes up then you 
>> know your day had an important milestone.
>>
>> I find if I don't  assign a day to tasks, they will linger, and if they 
>> have a due date  I will probably be rushing them at the last moment, and 
>> then as you said if something comes up, it falls apart but if instead of 
>> putting it on its due  date, I assign it a day of the week 1 or 2 days 
>> before, if I procrastinate or something comes up, no problem.
>>
>> although I agree that if you try to schedule everything to the minute 
>> with no time cushion between tasks and use the 24 hour of the day, you will 
>> fail, but if of the  lets say 8 hour work, you assign 4 or 5 hours of tasks 
>> and plus you know you gave each a bit more time than you really thought, 
>> then you have other  3 or 4 hours to deal with other / personal stuff.Or if 
>> you  have assigned every tasks to your week, and gives you 12 work hours 
>> for each then you know you won't be able to do it, either move, delegate, 
>> delete or at least know you probably won't finish them all, and you start 
>> with your musts, then by priority, and see what you can move at the end.
>>
>> Sorry for the long response.
>>
>> Thanks for your reply, this is my reasoning for wanting to put tasks into 
>> week days, not necessarily schedule them to the exact time.
>>
>> Oh, btw I found something that might work, not ideal but could do. open 2 
>> instances of MLO. Then have contexts and folders for days of the week. Copy 
>> and paste from one to the other to plan the week, forget about the first 
>> one and work with the last one. New tasks or projects come up, either 
>> assign them a day or if not for this week you can open the other instance. 
>> One would be the weekly 20,000ft view (projects, goals, etc), the other 
>> your day to day.
>>
>> Still seems kind of complicated, please any feedback of how you guys use 
>> MLO and plan your week would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 5:11:17 PM UTC-5, SRhyse wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Emilio!
>>>
>>> I'm not sure there's any way to assign specific dates to tasks or groups 
>>> of tasks other than to select them and then pick them from the 
>>> calendar/date wheel depending on what platform you're using MLO on. For 
>>> reference, however, how often are you accurate when it comes to things 
>>> being done on certain days or at certain times? I ask because one of the 
>>> nice things about MLO is that it can easily help you prioritize things and 
>>> get to them when you can. In my experience, though I do use start and due 
>>> dates to help with that on some things, most things are really 'when I can 
>>> get to them and in terms of their importance/urgency', not so much 'this 
>>> needs to be done on Tuesday or we're all gonna die'. 
>>>
>>> Most of the attempts to precisely schedule things I see people do all 
>>> tend to fall apart because things never go as planned. Relative urgency, 
>>> importance, and priority, however, are more forgiving, flexible, and 
>>> accurate for a good number of things I see people having trouble when it 
>>> comes to trying to over structure them in terms of the date they'll be done 
>>> on.
>>>
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