Dwight,
I appreciated you comment to Robert and was puzzled by your comment 
' tabs are not a great way to save a set of filters and such - once you get 
it set up how you want, it's far too easy to make a change, intentionally 
or by mistake'

I use Tabs all the time, and I right click on the Tab and  'Set as Default 
for this Tab' and then 'Lock Default in the Tab'.  Then if I mistakenly 
change some filter or grouping (which I agree is easy to do), it doesn't 
change that Tab, but makes another similar Modified Tab to the far right.  
TS

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:

> Dwight:
> Everything you have written was very helpful. The "Add advanced" was 
> something I was lacking knowledge about. Now I am better equipped to get 
> MLO to do what I need.
> Thank you for your instruction.
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 9:42 PM Dwight Arthur <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Bob.
>>
>> First issue involves where you set the project status. Maybe I am reading 
>> it wrong, but it sounds like you are setting project status on each task 
>> that's part of the project. I would suggest instead creating a parent and 
>> putting all of the project tasks as children of that parent. Set "this is a 
>> project" for the parent but not for the children. I have projects like 
>> "year end accounting" and "replaster swimming pool" and "grant renewal for 
>> clinic" - each of which has a bunch of child tasks comprising the work that 
>> needs to be done. It is often the case that the parent project has 
>> "complete subtasks in order". The difference between a project and a simple 
>> collection of to-do items is that the project usually has multiple steps, 
>> often a later task cannot be begun until earlier tasks have completed, the 
>> project is not considered done until the last subtask is completes, and it 
>> makes sense to set up a progress bar that shows how much of the project is 
>> done and how much remains.
>>
>> Now, lets talk about what is supposed to be in the view that you have in 
>> the Projects tab. Lets start with something that might be obvious, my 
>> apologies if you are already on top of this, but tabs are not a great way 
>> to save a set of filters and such - once you get it set up how you want, 
>> it's far too easy to make a change, intentionally or by mistake, and then 
>> struggle to try to reverse the change. What you should do is, once you get 
>> it set up how you like you should save it as a view. After any future 
>> changes you can reload the view to put it back the way you want it
>>
>> So, when you are creating a view, you need to set up filters that select 
>> the items you want to show, and also specify how the display should be 
>> organized. The "Group by" control affects how your items will be displayed 
>> but does not have any effect on which items are selected to be included in 
>> the view. To show your projects you want to select each of the project 
>> items, but you also want to include all of the children under each of the 
>> projects. Any view that shows parents and children arranged in hierarchies 
>> is called a hierarchical view. So what you want is to select every item 
>> that says it is a project and show them all, with a hierarchical view of 
>> the child tasks.
>>
>> A setup for a project view like this would involve the following settings 
>> in the view specifications in the left hand sidebar:
>>
>>    - Show Actions: All 
>>    - Show Hierarchy: Yes 
>>       - hit the "config" button after show hierarchy 
>>       - include children. Do not include parents 
>>    - Show completed: yes 
>>    - Advanced: set the "add advanced" checkmark 
>>       - hit the "setup" button 
>>       - hit "add rule" 
>>       - enter "IsProject is True" 
>>    
>> This should give you roughly the view you seek. You do not need the 
>> group-by control unless you have a view with some projects and some 
>> non-project items and you want to break the report into two sections, one 
>> for projects and the other for non-project tasks.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> dwight
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/2020 16:51, Stéph wrote:
>>
>> I think you've got me stumped there, Bob. I have a View in which I group 
>> by top level parent (which happens to be four areas of my life: personal, 
>> home, work and community) and then by project status (in progress, 
>> suspended, completed, etc). I just tried converting the second level of my 
>> groups to "IsProject" and I get all my projects listed under the group 
>> value "Yes". 
>> [image: Grouping tasks by IsProject status.png]
>>
>>
>>
>> Definitely, though, it's more useful to group tasks by Project Status:
>> [image: Grouping tasks by Project Status.png]
>>
>> All the best,
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 18:54:18 UTC [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My understanding of PROJECTS in MLO is very poor. I have designated 
>>> several tasks as a project. That is I have clicked on the "This is a 
>>> project" for that task. Then I have made a TAB I call Projects. Within that 
>>> TAB I have under the Filter "Group by..." I have selected the first option 
>>> "Is Project". But the list I get does not show any of my Projects.
>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob Young.
>>>
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