Dwight,
I think I got caught up in semantics.  Yes I have Views locked to Tabs, so
I access the different Views by clicking on the Tab.
I appreciate your insights.
TS

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 9:31 PM Dwight Arthur <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, TS. Maybe I am missing something. To me, a collection of
> specifications for selecting and displaying tasks should be saved in a
> view; workspaces (each locked to a view) are a fast and efficient way of
> selecting and pulling up a particular view. Temporary, ad-hoc or throwaway
> mods get made into unsaved view edits housed in modified tabs. If one of
> these mods turns out to be a permanent improvement to the view, just use
> save view and the changes propagate back to the locked tab.
>
> I wonder how different your procedure is than mine. Would you have
> different types of displays, such as today's priority tasks, tasks starting
> tomorrow, and high-importance overdue tasks, all using different
> modifications of the same view or would each have its own saved view? In
> other words, if you had three locked tabs, each one showing one of the
> three queries named above, and for each one your right-click on the tab and
> select "set up workspace to see the view name, would all three be the same
> view name or would each one have its own view name?
>
> -Dwight
> On 12/25/2020 21:51, TS OGrady wrote:
>
> Dwight,
> I appreciated you comment to Robert and was puzzled by your comment
> ' tabs are not a great way to save a set of filters and such - once you
> get it set up how you want, it's far too easy to make a change,
> intentionally or by mistake'
>
> I use Tabs all the time, and I right click on the Tab and  'Set as Default
> for this Tab' and then 'Lock Default in the Tab'.  Then if I mistakenly
> change some filter or grouping (which I agree is easy to do), it doesn't
> change that Tab, but makes another similar Modified Tab to the far right.
> TS
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-6 [email protected]
> wrote:
>
>> Dwight:
>> Everything you have written was very helpful. The "Add advanced" was
>> something I was lacking knowledge about. Now I am better equipped to get
>> MLO to do what I need.
>> Thank you for your instruction.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 9:42 PM Dwight Arthur <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Bob.
>>>
>>> First issue involves where you set the project status. Maybe I am
>>> reading it wrong, but it sounds like you are setting project status on each
>>> task that's part of the project. I would suggest instead creating a parent
>>> and putting all of the project tasks as children of that parent. Set "this
>>> is a project" for the parent but not for the children. I have projects like
>>> "year end accounting" and "replaster swimming pool" and "grant renewal for
>>> clinic" - each of which has a bunch of child tasks comprising the work that
>>> needs to be done. It is often the case that the parent project has
>>> "complete subtasks in order". The difference between a project and a simple
>>> collection of to-do items is that the project usually has multiple steps,
>>> often a later task cannot be begun until earlier tasks have completed, the
>>> project is not considered done until the last subtask is completes, and it
>>> makes sense to set up a progress bar that shows how much of the project is
>>> done and how much remains.
>>>
>>> Now, lets talk about what is supposed to be in the view that you have in
>>> the Projects tab. Lets start with something that might be obvious, my
>>> apologies if you are already on top of this, but tabs are not a great way
>>> to save a set of filters and such - once you get it set up how you want,
>>> it's far too easy to make a change, intentionally or by mistake, and then
>>> struggle to try to reverse the change. What you should do is, once you get
>>> it set up how you like you should save it as a view. After any future
>>> changes you can reload the view to put it back the way you want it
>>>
>>> So, when you are creating a view, you need to set up filters that select
>>> the items you want to show, and also specify how the display should be
>>> organized. The "Group by" control affects how your items will be displayed
>>> but does not have any effect on which items are selected to be included in
>>> the view. To show your projects you want to select each of the project
>>> items, but you also want to include all of the children under each of the
>>> projects. Any view that shows parents and children arranged in hierarchies
>>> is called a hierarchical view. So what you want is to select every item
>>> that says it is a project and show them all, with a hierarchical view of
>>> the child tasks.
>>>
>>> A setup for a project view like this would involve the following
>>> settings in the view specifications in the left hand sidebar:
>>>
>>>    - Show Actions: All
>>>    - Show Hierarchy: Yes
>>>       - hit the "config" button after show hierarchy
>>>       - include children. Do not include parents
>>>    - Show completed: yes
>>>    - Advanced: set the "add advanced" checkmark
>>>       - hit the "setup" button
>>>       - hit "add rule"
>>>       - enter "IsProject is True"
>>>
>>> This should give you roughly the view you seek. You do not need the
>>> group-by control unless you have a view with some projects and some
>>> non-project items and you want to break the report into two sections, one
>>> for projects and the other for non-project tasks.
>>>
>>> hth
>>>
>>> dwight
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/21/2020 16:51, Stéph wrote:
>>>
>>> I think you've got me stumped there, Bob. I have a View in which I group
>>> by top level parent (which happens to be four areas of my life: personal,
>>> home, work and community) and then by project status (in progress,
>>> suspended, completed, etc). I just tried converting the second level of my
>>> groups to "IsProject" and I get all my projects listed under the group
>>> value "Yes".
>>> [image: Grouping tasks by IsProject status.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Definitely, though, it's more useful to group tasks by Project Status:
>>> [image: Grouping tasks by Project Status.png]
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 18:54:18 UTC [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My understanding of PROJECTS in MLO is very poor. I have designated
>>>> several tasks as a project. That is I have clicked on the "This is a
>>>> project" for that task. Then I have made a TAB I call Projects. Within that
>>>> TAB I have under the Filter "Group by..." I have selected the first option
>>>> "Is Project". But the list I get does not show any of my Projects.
>>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bob Young.
>>>>
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