Mark has a great idea with the subscription model, for all the reasons he 
stated.  I have often wondered how app developers survive if they rely on 
one-off purchases so the suggestion is not at all heretical, just seems 
like common sense.  Over the many years I have been a user the average cost 
of updates would have been no more than a few dollars per year ($10?  $15?) 
and I would happily switch to that instead of paying for a new version 
every 2-3 years.

Martin

On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:31:59 AM UTC+12 Mark Levison wrote:

> Good to see all the old timers crawl out of the woodwork. I'm going to 
> offer a suggestion that appears alot of the Mac world at the moment that 
> would help Andrey and in the long run help us.
>
> Switching to a subscription model. Many iOS apps have done this in the 
> past few years to provide a stable income stream for their creators and 
> steady stream.
>
> Benefits:
> - Steady income allows the app developer to keep people on staff
> - Features can be released as it's useful and not a big bang i.e. v5 or 6 
> - where if you don't get your feature in that release you wait another 
> 12-18 mth release cycle
>
> Others who have done the same transition gave existing app owners, 
> permanent access to all existing features. One app (either Drafts or 
> Fantastical), simply made all existing "Pro" features free and then the 
> subscription unlocked the new features. There were other safeguards put in 
> place, but the key idea is existing users didn't lose anything,
>
> Greg Pierce (of Drafts), discussed his journey on the MacPowerUsers 
> Podcast: https://www.relay.fm/mpu/639
>
> When I find the interview with the Fantastical founder I will share.
>
> I know for some this is hersey and so Andrey will need to reflect 
> carefully. Frankly I think it's Andrey's path to long term sustainability. 
> I would even give up my free license that I won years ago and pay for a 
> subscription.
>
> Cheers
> Mark
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 3:34 PM imajeff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Agreed; I too have used MLO since before there was a version number 
>> (syncing with my Microsoft PDA before a smart phone was possible).
>> Ten years later I thought the difficulty with daily usage would be solved 
>> but now, even that was a long time ago and I struggle to maintain tasks. It 
>> seems mostly changing what would help me could hinder some other way 
>> someone uses it. Internally, it might require much planning plus a big 
>> rewrite, but they don't have funding to just hire another team to develop a 
>> whole new idea in parallel. Would be like a competition to see who wins 
>> becoming the next release (it's what Microsoft has done, and just drop the 
>> one that didn't win).
>>
>> But if they will redo it at least enough to allow some scripting language 
>> to check and modify things triggered by events, that would be a great start 
>> so others can help make normal usage work the way they need, sharing the 
>> ideas. Let's make MLO great again
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:48:28 AM UTC-6 daniel wrote:
>>
>>> Mark, That is simply the best description of my MLO usage ever.   I also 
>>> have been around nearly as long.  The 'exact' same thoughts: "Easy to plan 
>>> with, Easy to keep track of everything. Hard to live with on a day to day 
>>> basis"   OMG I'm married to MLO!
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 8:11 PM Mark Levison <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @Hienz you’ve just summarized my entire MLO relationship for as long as 
>>>> I’ve used the app. Which apparently dates back 17yrs almost to the day.
>>>>
>>>> Easy to plan with, Easy to keep track of everything. Hard to live with 
>>>> on a day to day basis, which is why I eventually wind up abandoning it 
>>>> every few years.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Mark - an early user and former forum admin
>>>>
>>>

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