You are correct.  Windows 10 desktop.  But, I will read your email to see
if I discover something.

On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 11:25 PM Dwight Arthur <[email protected]> wrote:

> You sound to me like you are using MLO on a desktop system, probably
> Windows. Is that right? If not, please ignore the remainder of my message,
> and write back telling me what kind or phone or computer you are on.
>
> Your system contains an outline (all of your tasks arranged in a
> hierarchical list) and views. Each view is filtered, grouped, and sorted
> according to its own specifications. I don't know if there is really a
> default view, but maybe you mean "All Tasks" - this is a view that shows
> all of your tasks in the same order as how they are stored in the outline.
> If you are looking at the "All Tasks" view and you move a task, you are
> physically moving it to a different part of the outline. If you are looking
> at a sorted view and you move a a task, you are probably not changing the
> outline, but rather changing the sort.
>
> If things changed for you recently, there are a few things that could be
> the cause.
>
> For one thing, maybe you have not really been paying attention to views,
> and have been using "All Tasks" for the last many years, and somehow now
> you have gotten switched to a sorted view.
>
> Troubleshooting instructions:
>
> 1. When you look at the MLO screen do you see a sidebar on the left? If
> not, hold down ALT and tap F1 and it will appear. If you don't know whether
> you have the sidebar, hold down ALT and hit F1 about a dozen times. You
> will see the sidebar flashing on and off. Stop hitting F1 while the sidebar
> is visible.
>
> 2. OK, now we know that you have the sidebar visible. Look at the sidebar
> title. It's at the top left, under the toolbars. On my system it's just
> under a big blue button called "New Task." The title either says "Views" or
> it has the name of a view, like "All Tasks". If it says "Views" then click
> right on the word "Views" and it will change to a view name
>
> 3. OK, now we have a view name as the sidebar title. The view name you see
> should be the name of the view you are using. Is it "All Tasks"? If not,
> click on the view name to change it to "Views" then scan down through the
> listed views until you find "All Tasks" and click on it. Your main view
> should now be showing the All Tasks view and the sidebar title should say
> All Tasks.
>
> 4. The sidebar should have eight or so sections. They probably do not all
> fit on your screen at once, so use the scrollbar at the right edge of the
> sidebar to scroll up and down. See if you can pick out where the sections
> begin and end. The first line of each section is the section header and
> starts with a three bar "move handle" and a triangle (called a twistie)
> that can point down or to the right. find the section header that says
> "Group & Sort". Click on the twistie about a dozen times. You will notice
> that the section is expanding and collapsing. Stop clicking while it is
> expanded and leave it expanded.
>
> 5. In the expanded Group & Sort section find a button that says "Sort..."
> and click it. You will get a pop-up "Sorting" window. Your display should
> now look like this:
>
> In the "sorting" pop up in the sample above you will see four entries that
> all say "(none)". Is that what you see on your system? If any of the four
> shows anything other than "(none)" you should click on it and change it
> right away to "(none)".
>
> OK, now we know that you are looking at the All Tasks view and that it is
> not sorted. I am guessing that this is the view that you are used to and
> that it will behave the way you want. If this is not all true, please write
> back and tell me where I lost you.
>
> If everything is ok now, I would encourage you to go back to the VIEWS
> display and explore some of the other predefined views, and maybe
> experiment a little with modifying some of the views to make them better
> fit your needs. Or you could just go on using just the All Tasks view.
>
> Having written all of this I feel entitled to make a suggestion even
> though it's really none of my business. I apologize if you don't want
> suggestions, or if I have made incorrect assumptions about what you are
> doing or what you need. But if you have MLO and you are just using the All
> Tasks view, that would be, to me, like buying a Lamborghini and hooking up
> a team of donkeys to pull it down the highway. You should look into the
> powerful machine you are sitting on and you might be pleasantly surprised
> by what it can do for you.
>
> BTW, what's a "PM" and in what subject were you a professor?
>
> -Dwight
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [MLO] Problems on the Sort Order in My Task List
> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 08:09:29 -0500
> From: Jeff Tix <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> To: Dwight Arthur <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>
> I would have to say the default view.  I may have made a settings change
> by accident.  I have used the same view for years, and I cannot get back to
> that being my default view.
>
> I do appreciate your help.  I’m not a PM.  Just an old college prof that
> likes to stay organized.
>
> Is there some screen shot that might help you help me?
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 10:52 PM Dwight Arthur <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Are you always looking at the same view when this happens? If so, what is
>> the name of the view?
>>
>> -Dwight
>> On 7/22/2022 09:13, Jeff Tix wrote:
>>
>> Likely something I have done by accident.
>>
>> No matter how many times I fix the tasks in place, the outline keeps
>> going back to some preset order.  I must have activated something.  I just
>> want things to stay where I put them.
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your time.
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