"Michael Widenius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This thing has been up a couple of times over the years. The problem
> is that requiring people to be subscribers to the mailing list before
> posting will only confuse the poor people that don't expect to get 100
> emails per day after subscribing.
In that case, you may want to consider implementing a MLM (mailing list
manager) that allows subscribers to disable mail delivery. I know Mailman
and some others have that feature. What MLM is MySQL using? In conjunction
with that feature you could have an autoreply that gives non-subscribers who
attempt to post a canned message with info. on the lists and instructions on
subscribing.
> We need to come up with something better than the above. Here follows
> some suggestions:
>
> - Split the main (big) list into smaller, more specific lists.
I used to think that was a good idea on technical lists, but as more and
more less-technical people subcribe to lists like this I don't think it's
wise. It seems that a lot of these people want a quick fix and don't want
to put in the time or energy reading through list archives (which in my
opinion is a bigger problem than spam on these lists) or posting to a
lower-traffic, less publicized alternate mailing list.
> - Require the person to be either subscribed to the list or that the
> email should contain the word 'MySQL'.
I don't think this will be effective. I just checked the last 10 messages I
posted to the list. 6 had 'mysql' in the body and 4 didn't...and I was
surprised that many did.
> (Sasha, would it be easy to fix the last thing).
> - Add better spam filters; Matt, do you have any ideas for this?
Yesterday in this thread I mentioned Spam Bouncer
<http://www.spambouncer.org/>. It's a set of procmail recipes that are
pretty powerful, easy to modify and are pretty effective. I especially like
the ability to automatically notify senders of false positives and provide
them a password to resend the message and bypass the filtering system (which
conceptually a spammer wouldn't do).
I'd be glad to help you find a solution. Look at it this way, if you try
something and it doesn't work you can always go back to what you have in
place now. BTW, I think your company has done a fine job with MySQL. I've
been using it for a few years and recommending it to lots of people.
--
Steve Werby
President, Befriend Internet Services LLC
http://www.befriend.com/
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