On Monday 14 February 2005 19:53, Brad Templeton wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 07:39:54PM -0700, Blair wrote:
> > I strongly suspect it is the Component out processing and the Component
> > input itself that is reducing the artifacts, I get some of them back if I
> > go to an SVIDEO ouput on the same card.  I suppose it's possible
> > (probably likely) that nVidia is doing some additional processing of this
> > signal.
>
> Ah, so you are talking about at SD resolution.  Most people are
> particularly keen on component output for HD resolutions.  I actually find
> that the SVIDEO TV-out looks better and has fewer artifacts than playing
> the video at 720p coponent (upscaled) and I presumed the tv-out had some
> filters for the artifacts.

I "am" talking about an HD signal, the artifacts actually return if I output a 
down converted HD signal to the SVIDEO.  Maybe I'm missing something in my 
configs?  Processing a signal to COMPONENT (YprPb) should inherently improve 
bandwidth delivery capability to to set, just based on the specs electrical 
charactaristics.  I suspect this is contributing to the reduction of 
artifacts simply by virtue of the sets ability to handle signal more quickly 
in this context.  I could be all wet though.

I say this because if I simply change the cards output to the SVIDEO prtion of 
the dongle, some of the artifacts I was getting return, when I swtch to the 
YprPb outputs, they go away.  I open to other suggestions as to why I see 
this.  I can repeat it at will.

>
> > couple years ago (though I hate to admit it) I burned up a an old TV
> > messing with modelines so I'm hesitant to do much of that with an HDTV. 
> > I also have
>
> Just about every modern HDTV I have seen handles bad modelines gracefully,
> but of course there are no guarantees!   With lcd/dlp etc. TVs I am not
> sure you could damage them much anyway, they are just trying to scan
> convert to the native internal digital res.
>
> The modelines you would use for your component out would be identical from
> what I know to the ones you would use for vga -> audio authority.  It is
> not a scan converter.
>
> I have stayed away from the high-end cards believing they would gain me
> nothing, would just run hotter and need a fan, and of course cost mucho
> dinero.  Seems nuts to pay more for a video card than you do for a Tivo.
>
> Run my mythcommflag benchmark and tell us how it performs.  If we find
> that the high end cards really do a lot better, you might see folks
> upgrading.

I'm just outputing 1920x1440 (a native X modeline) and letting X take care of 
it for me.  Haven't been tweeking though maybe I should?  I've just been 
letting the X virtual windowing handle the extra for me and scaling Myth to 
display in the visible portion of the display.

-- 
-Blair Preston
Principle Systems Architect

"The best way to predict the future, is to invent it"
-Alan Kay 
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