"Isaac and crew ask nothing from you, so stop asking them for something."

What an interesting standpoint that is... The way I see it, the second you
release something openly to the outside world you are, effectively, opening
yourself up for praise and criticism.  You can't have it both ways.  If
you're going to keep something for yourself and not share, then you bypass
this, but if you allow others to be a part of something, you must accept
some level of interaction with others.  And the very nature of software is
to progress and version, so it's not rude to ask and talk to others about
new features and question how priority is set.  Those are fair questions to
ask, and as long as you're not rude and vulgar doing it (which the original
post was not), I would we should not be so thin skinned (and request that
people not ask anything of others).  Plus, because these things are public
domain and are being passed about the people are certainly helping to test
and stabilize the system for all, I'd say that just because someone doesn't
dev doesn't exclude them from providing value.  That's like saying that a
company that makes software should only hire devs since they're the only
valuable resource... Not quite.

"If you want it, you have three options:
1) Write the code yourself
2) Pay someone else to write the code
3) Buy windows software that does it."

Those are all options that are worthwhile.  I'm a dev so I have that
ability, but some are not and certainly do help contribute to MythTv in
other ways.  The XBMC team even opened up for contributions for a specific
feature (DVD Menu support), and that certainly seems like a valid idea.
Would that be more inspiring to you and others if the prioritization were
more mercenary like?  Would that make suggestions and criticism seem less
personal?  Would the original poster be more able to critique if he
contributed more dollars?  And do you really want them to switch over to
another project?  Surely you know there are open source alternatives on the
Windows side as well, but wouldn't you rather great ideas are taken and
developed into THIS product over those?  I hope so, so I can benefit, as I'm
running MythTV, not MediaPortal or Freevo.

I'm not knocking anyone, but I also think it's fair for people to question,
praise, and critique a piece of software.  MythTV is great - I've not been
using it too long (started right when .16 came out), but I do love the
software.  I'm always curious when I read comments though that might lead
people to think that open source projects are not the place for them just
because they're not a dev.  In my opinion, that's less of the attitude we
need and more of the, "yeah, good feedback".

Thanks,

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan A. Carris
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:02 PM
To: M S; Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Single most frustrating thing about MythTV...

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:40:43 -0600, M S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yea yea...  If I could I would, unfortunantly, I'm a user not a 
> developer.  I only know enough to get mysel out of trouble when it 
> comes to linux, not how to create trouble.  Like I said, I love myth, 
> I just don't understand why this hasn't been considered a priority.  I 
> know the question has been asked 1000 times, but I've never seen a 
> developer take it seriously as of yet.

So you're a leach???

If you want it, you have three options:
1) Write the code yourself
2) Pay somone else to write the code
3) Buy windows software that does it.

Isaac and crew ask nothing from you, so stop asking them for something.


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