On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:42:45 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
(snipped)
> The people that make MythTV get to decide who their target audience is and
> what they will and won't do to support that audience.  Its their work, their
> project and their right.  No matter how much we parasites on their
> underbellies really, really really want otherwise.   
>  
> I don't know Isaac.  Maybe threads like this bemuse him.  I hope so. 
> Because if they annoy him and this continues, then he might pack up his
> goodies or kick us to the curb.   
>  

I fully agree with Joe.  I'm relatively new to MythTV (couple of
months ago I started with 0.16).  I haven't developed anything for the
project.  I have gone through several installs and tried to contribute
back to this list things I've learned to others with similar problems.

I don't expect anything from the developers of MythTV.  I didn't pay
anything for the software and the amount of support they (and the
other users/contributors) provide for it.  In my opinion it far
exceeds what I get from so called "commercial" packages.

Additionally, when I started working with mythtv, I recognized that it
was at 0.xx.  Therefore, I considered it to be pre-beta code.  I
didn't expect, for example, that professional home theater installers
were installing mythtv for their customers.  I also understood that
with a pre-1.0 release, there would be a fair amount of warts with
this application.

My experience has been just the opposite.  Sure, there are occasional
problems (especially with HDTV), but this product does an awful lot
and does it very well.  And I for one, greatly appreciate the team for
what they have done.

Finally, as for "releases", other projects I have been involved with
(Gnu-type projects) work just like this one in terms of identifying a
point in time on the development tree and calling that an "official"
release.  As the project matures, those "official" releases become
more stable (since the ratio of changes vs "fixes" decreases).  Most
products like these are at their *least* stable when they stamp a new
"official" release.  It is only after the community gets to it,
determines what's not working, patches the worst offenders, and
documents the workarounds for the small stuff, that it becomes the
most useful.  But by then, the development community is on to the next
release...

As Joe says, I hope Issac is amused by all this.  I'd hate to think he
might become frustrated after freely sharing his work.  No rule says
he needs to share, no rule says he needs to listen to our complaints,
and no rule says he needs to do it 'our' way.  All of us using this
software knew what we were getting and agreed to the warts as the
price of admission.  If you want to live on the bleeding edge, either
you better have thick skin, or you've got to expect some cuts...

thanks for listening
phlepper

-- 
I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.  --  Confucius
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