Tomas,

I thought if the software was displaying the value as retention time then it 
was probably coming from a term with "retention time" either in its name or 
description. The mzML elution time term has a different meaning but in general 
elution time and retention time usually refer to the same thing.

I'm not really familiar with mzML common practice. I'm going by the schema 
documentation and a few examples. Basically we started off just supplying the 
mandatory elements and terms, and then threw in a couple of extra.

Thanks for the fast reply,


Steven Robles
Design Engineer - Software
LECO Corporation - Separation Sciences
http://www.leco.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Tomas Pluskal [mailto:plus...@oist.jp]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:17 AM
To: Developer discussion
Cc: Robles, Steve
Subject: Re: [Mzmine-devel] reading retention time from mzML

Hi Steve,

As far as I understand, the common practice in mzML is to use the term 
MS:1000016 for retention time:

[Term]
relationship: has_units UO:0000031 ! minute
id: MS:1000016
name: scan start time
def: "The time that an analyzer started a scan, relative to the start of the MS 
run." [PSI:MS]
xref: value-type:xsd\:float "The allowed value-type for this CV term."
is_a: MS:1000503 ! scan attribute
relationship: has_units UO:0000010 ! second


That is also what we expect in MZmine.

What is the basis of your decision to use MS:1000895 or MS:1000826?

Best regards,

Tomas


On Aug 31, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Robles, Steve wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Our software exports mzML 1.1 and the most recent version of MZmine 2.2 can 
> open the files but it doesn't seem to read the retention time.
>
> The specific mzML includes local retention time and elution time CV elements 
> but these don't show up. See terms below and attached mzML for an example. 
> Can anyone give me an idea what we need to include in our mzML so MZmine will 
> display the retention time?
>
> I hope I'm sending this to the write place and apologize if I'm not.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Steven Robles
> Design Engineer - Software
> LECO Corporation - Separation Sciences http://www.leco.com
>
>
>
>
> [Term]
> id: MS:1000895
> name: local retention time
> def: "A measure of the interval relative to the beginning of a mass
> spectrometric run when a peptide will exit an unspecified local
> chromatographic column and instrumental setup." [PSI:MS]
> xref: value-type:xsd\:float "The allowed value-type for this CV term."
> is_a: MS:1000894 ! retention time
> relationship: has_units UO:0000010 ! second
> relationship: has_units UO:0000031 ! minute
>
> [Term]
> id: MS:1000826
> name: elution time
> def: "The time of elution from a chromatographic column, relative to
> the start of the chromatography." [PSI:MS]
> xref: value-type:xsd\:float "The allowed value-type for this CV term."
> is_a: MS:1000503 ! scan attribute
> relationship: has_units UO:0000010 ! second
> relationship: has_units UO:0000031 ! minute
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