Hi David

Sounds like a plan.  I have made one and when it boots with debug 
CPMLDR.COM reads LBA 3F and 40 then stops - that is where I am at.  Let me 
dig up an image and  I will post here for you to look - at - think it is 
pretty close

Dave


On Saturday, June 14, 2014 1:48:33 PM UTC-5, David Fry wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>  
> If we can get the 'No holes' CF card layout to be compliant with cpmtool 
> then that has to be the way to go as it will make life much easier.
> As I said in a previous post, I welcome this 'no holes' lba to be picked 
> apart to get it right before we go too far down the road and find problems 
> later.
>  
> I'm a little busy at the moment with various other aspects of my S100 
> system with the little time I have to spend on it,(summer is coming after 
> all :-) )
> If you can knock together a quick image with a CPMLDR.COM and CPM3.SYS 
> (doesnt matter what system it's for) then we could take a look to see how 
> the layout differs.
> My layout was derived from where CPMLDR was looking to find data.
>  
> regards
>  
> David Fry
> On Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:30:00 PM UTC+1, yoda wrote:
>
>> why not take a look at the cpmtools set.  It has a program called 
>> mkfs.cpm that will make a file as a cpm filesystem.  You can specify a boot 
>> image which it will lay down in the boot sectors.  You can then use cpmcp 
>> to copy files to the cpm filesystem.  Then you can take the file and write 
>> it block by block to the CF card.  I did this originally to get my system 
>> up and running.  I actually used dd (a utility on linux or Mac) to write it 
>> to the CF.  I actually wrote a little script to take the file image and add 
>> the "holes" back in so it would work with your BIOS.  I went back and tried 
>> it with the no hole version and had some difficulties that I have not 
>> straightened out yet.  I don't know if I did something wrong or David Fry's 
>> LBA routine is not doing what I thought it did.  I have not gone back and 
>> investigated yet but with David's help we can probably probably get this 
>> resolved.  The procedure  would go like this: 
>>
>> 1) mkfs.cpm -f s100ide -b dummy.file -b CPMLDR.COM s100.dsk
>>
>> where s100ide is an entry in diskdefs that specifies the geometry of the 
>> drive
>> dummy.file is a 512 byte empty file to get CPMLDR.COM to be in the 
>> correct sector start.
>> s100.dsk is the file that represent the disk image.
>>
>> 2) cpmcp -f s100ide s100.dsk CPM3.SYS 0:
>>     cpmcp -f s100ide s100.dsk <cpm file> 0:     copies <cpm file> to user 
>> area 0 on disk image
>>     continue until you have all the files you want on the disk
>>
>> 3) use a disk image write tool (dd on Linux or Mac) to write s100.dsk to 
>> CF card
>>
>> Here is a link to the cpmtools:  http://www.moria.de/~michael/cpmtools/ 
>>   These tools run on Windoze for those that use that OS and easily compiled 
>> for Mac or Linux.
>>
>> This is the way I am building my images for CP/M 68K that I am currently 
>> working on.
>>
>> I think getting the diskdefs set write and a good writeLBA routine and we 
>> should be able to get the procedure down.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:31:49 AM UTC-5, monahanz wrote: 
>>>
>>>  Guys, it’s great to see all the progress and uptake this simple little 
>>> IDE board has generated.  Thomas in particular congratulations on 
>>> putting so much time and effort into “hammering into shape” the process for 
>>> first time installs.  It helps tremendously but I think it will still 
>>> be difficult for some people to do.   We all should remember how it was 
>>> when we first started!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I’m wondering if somebody out there could spend the time writing a 
>>> PC/MSDOS based program to setup a CF card for first time users.  If we 
>>> agree the IDE board ports start at 30H, the only variable would be the 
>>> console I/O.  This could be either spliced into the final disk image 
>>> with the above program (leaving room in the base code with NOP’s) or by 
>>> answering a Q&A session and inserting code like the old XMODEM programs 
>>> did.  
>>> A CF card is laid down as Dave describes and is checked out. Once the 
>>> image is laid down it can be dumped sector for sector any  CF card (no 
>>> holes of course).  The image can even include a few CPM programs.  Probably 
>>> best to start with a non-banked CPM3 image.  This program would run on 
>>> a standard PC, format the CF card and write the image sector by sector.  
>>> Not sure if Windows 7,8 allows you to do that easily but there must be a 
>>> way.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> This would allow anybody not as sophisticated as some of us, to get 
>>> going right away and allow them to write more elaborate CPM3.SYS files that 
>>> include a FDC, printer etc. in the BIOS for their own hardware.
>>>
>>> I think something like this would be a tremendous asset for first time 
>>> S100 users.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Any volunteers?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>

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