Hi Dave,
 
thats right on a 64 sector border, this may be where my -1 or +1 sector 
correction may be wrong.
 
regards
 
David Fry
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:00:09 PM UTC+1, yoda wrote:

> Hi David 
>
> Sounds like a plan.  I have made one and when it boots with debug 
> CPMLDR.COM reads LBA 3F and 40 then stops - that is where I am at.  Let 
> me dig up an image and  I will post here for you to look - at - think it is 
> pretty close
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Saturday, June 14, 2014 1:48:33 PM UTC-5, David Fry wrote: 
>>
>>  Hi Dave,
>>  
>> If we can get the 'No holes' CF card layout to be compliant with cpmtool 
>> then that has to be the way to go as it will make life much easier.
>> As I said in a previous post, I welcome this 'no holes' lba to be picked 
>> apart to get it right before we go too far down the road and find problems 
>> later.
>>  
>> I'm a little busy at the moment with various other aspects of my S100 
>> system with the little time I have to spend on it,(summer is coming after 
>> all :-) )
>> If you can knock together a quick image with a CPMLDR.COM and CPM3.SYS 
>> (doesnt matter what system it's for) then we could take a look to see how 
>> the layout differs.
>> My layout was derived from where CPMLDR was looking to find data.
>>  
>> regards
>>  
>> David Fry
>> On Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:30:00 PM UTC+1, yoda wrote:
>>
>>> why not take a look at the cpmtools set.  It has a program called 
>>> mkfs.cpm that will make a file as a cpm filesystem.  You can specify a boot 
>>> image which it will lay down in the boot sectors.  You can then use cpmcp 
>>> to copy files to the cpm filesystem.  Then you can take the file and write 
>>> it block by block to the CF card.  I did this originally to get my system 
>>> up and running.  I actually used dd (a utility on linux or Mac) to write it 
>>> to the CF.  I actually wrote a little script to take the file image and add 
>>> the "holes" back in so it would work with your BIOS.  I went back and tried 
>>> it with the no hole version and had some difficulties that I have not 
>>> straightened out yet.  I don't know if I did something wrong or David Fry's 
>>> LBA routine is not doing what I thought it did.  I have not gone back and 
>>> investigated yet but with David's help we can probably probably get this 
>>> resolved.  The procedure  would go like this: 
>>>
>>> 1) mkfs.cpm -f s100ide -b dummy.file -b CPMLDR.COM s100.dsk
>>>
>>> where s100ide is an entry in diskdefs that specifies the geometry of the 
>>> drive
>>> dummy.file is a 512 byte empty file to get CPMLDR.COM to be in the 
>>> correct sector start.
>>> s100.dsk is the file that represent the disk image.
>>>
>>> 2) cpmcp -f s100ide s100.dsk CPM3.SYS 0:
>>>     cpmcp -f s100ide s100.dsk <cpm file> 0:     copies <cpm file> to 
>>> user area 0 on disk image
>>>     continue until you have all the files you want on the disk
>>>
>>> 3) use a disk image write tool (dd on Linux or Mac) to write s100.dsk to 
>>> CF card
>>>
>>> Here is a link to the cpmtools:  http://www.moria.de/~michael/cpmtools/ 
>>>   These tools run on Windoze for those that use that OS and easily compiled 
>>> for Mac or Linux.
>>>
>>> This is the way I am building my images for CP/M 68K that I am currently 
>>> working on.
>>>
>>> I think getting the diskdefs set write and a good writeLBA routine and 
>>> we should be able to get the procedure down.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:31:49 AM UTC-5, monahanz wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>  Guys, it’s great to see all the progress and uptake this simple 
>>>> little IDE board has generated.  Thomas in particular congratulations 
>>>> on putting so much time and effort into “hammering into shape” the process 
>>>> for first time installs.  It helps tremendously but I think it will 
>>>> still be difficult for some people to do.   We all should remember how 
>>>> it was when we first started!
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I’m wondering if somebody out there could spend the time writing a 
>>>> PC/MSDOS based program to setup a CF card for first time users.  If we 
>>>> agree the IDE board ports start at 30H, the only variable would be the 
>>>> console I/O.  This could be either spliced into the final disk image 
>>>> with the above program (leaving room in the base code with NOP’s) or by 
>>>> answering a Q&A session and inserting code like the old XMODEM programs 
>>>> did.  
>>>> A CF card is laid down as Dave describes and is checked out. Once the 
>>>> image is laid down it can be dumped sector for sector any  CF card (no 
>>>> holes of course).  The image can even include a few CPM programs.  
>>>> Probably 
>>>> best to start with a non-banked CPM3 image.  This program would run on 
>>>> a standard PC, format the CF card and write the image sector by sector.  
>>>> Not sure if Windows 7,8 allows you to do that easily but there must be 
>>>> a way.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> This would allow anybody not as sophisticated as some of us, to get 
>>>> going right away and allow them to write more elaborate CPM3.SYS files 
>>>> that 
>>>> include a FDC, printer etc. in the BIOS for their own hardware.
>>>>
>>>> I think something like this would be a tremendous asset for first time 
>>>> S100 users.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Any volunteers?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>

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