Hi Ian,
 
many thanks, I have now ordered some parts from ACP surplus via ebay cart 
system.
Quest components looked like a good source until I got to checkout and they 
wanted $50 to ship a few chips USPS to UK ( I dont think so....)
 
regards
 
David Fry
On Sunday, June 29, 2014 4:09:19 PM UTC+1, Ian May wrote:

>   Hi David,
> eBay seller acpsurplus has Western Digital WD2793s and some SAB2793s which 
> are a Siemens version according to the listing. He is a California based 
> seller and every device I have purchased from him has been genuine old 
> stock. I have no connections to acpsurplus, just a satisfied customer.
> Cheers,
> Ian.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 2:46 PM, David Fry <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,
>>  
>> does anyone know a reliable source for a WD2793 floppy controller ic, I 
>> have been looking on ebay and am also concerned that many of the TMS2793 
>> look suspicious, too many suppliers with identically printed/date coded 
>> chips. I can believe that there is a large stash of these parts in China.
>> the whole fake IC this is very frustrating, I buy from reputable 
>> suppliers where possible but many of these chips are obsolete/not stocked.
>>  
>> wrt 20mhz Z80 CPU , Mouser has 119 DIP's on order with an estimated 
>> delivery of 3/10/2014 for those who can wait
>>  
>> http://uk.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=z84c0020
>>  
>> regards
>>  
>> David Fry 
>>
>> On Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:44:02 AM UTC+1, curt mayer wrote:
>>  
>>> I've got a 8088 cpu blank, and a z80 cpu populated.   I bought a 10 chip 
>>> lot of z84c0002pec's from ebay, and was a bit horrified when I got them to 
>>> find 
>>> that they smelled of new paint.  identical fronts, but the backs showed 
>>> different countries (indonesia and phillipines), all with different mold 
>>> imprints.
>>>
>>> obviously shenanigans. 
>>>
>>> so, I wired up a 20mhz test rig for the z80's, using a derivative of 
>>> dunfield's no-ram monitor (i disassembled it and added a lot more code), 
>>> and not a one tested
>>> out at 20 mhz.  one limped at 16, 2 ran at 12, and the rest were good at 
>>> 8.  all tested as cmos: the out (C),F instruction sends FF, the nmos sends 
>>> 00.
>>>
>>> for 15 bucks, I got a bunch of mildly useful z80s of unknown actual 
>>> characteristics.
>>>
>>> anyhow, now i want to build the 8088 board with V20's - NEC has a part 
>>> number for dip-40's at 16mhz.  70108hcz-16.  lots of them available on ebay 
>>> from china.
>>>
>>> any experiences here before I become the ebay counterfeit chip crash 
>>> test dummy?
>>>
>>> --curt
>>>
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