I love that idea. I have one client that always wants to put her feet up and practically lay sideways and fall asleep.
Angie Wingerter ----- Original Message ---- From: shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:21:40 AM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Hand filing Ha ha, I know what you mean on both accounts.... I guess I sometimes hold the file tight and sometimes very loosely, guess I would have to pay attention. I do always refine the shape and surface with a hand file after I have done the majority with the e-file. Which I may add that I had to teach myself how to use, never have seen it used in person, but I did watch tutorials online and practiced on myself for a while before ever using on a client. We have no education opportunities anywhere close here. But I am confident that I from learning from all you greats here online that I am doing the right thing. Hey does anyone out there know where I can get a sciver or scriber bit, not sure how it is pronounced. Loni in Vegas used one on me when she did my nails and it was awesome worked wonders. Oh and the death grip on clients fingers, definitely know what you mean. Somedays mine just cramps up so bad, depends on the client. Some let me have their fingers and some don't. Oh and how 'bout them that want you to practically come across the table to do their nails on their side, and sit way back from the table. OMG those ones kill me. I feel like putting up a board in between client and table, have them put their hands through the holes and let me have them for an hour or so, not letting them look at anything. Shannon Maureen Solan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Shannon, There is a way to hold that file. First of all, most of the tech that I watch work have a death grip on the file. Holding anything too tight will cause stress in your hand. Also, the file does the work. I use a wider file right noe the ENTITY refiner. That file is the only one I use. It is flexible enough to let me press alittle harder (if I need to ) I dont build up heat and I can get in tight corners. Next when I am filing, you can pull the file out of my hand. You also have to use your arm. Put a little swing in your step. Do you know what I mean? Now, dont you dare ask me about the thumb on my left hand from the death grip I use to keep the client from wiggling away from me. Maureen --- On Thu, 10/23/08, shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Hand filing To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 7:36 AM I orginally only switched to an e-file to save my hands. I have worked with my hands my whole life, doing some physical work as well as repetitive work, so I needed to switch to save my hands from further problems as long as I can. I too was very fast at hand filing, but I also did have some lifting issues, they did get better with time though. I do like the control I had with hand filing. But I am also gaining better control with the e-file the more I use it. How in the world have your hands held up with 31 years of hand filing? I am amazed at that. Just maybe some of us have better luck with no physical damage over time. But I have found that using an e-file I have way less lifting issues, and I have gotten way faster, still can't get a fill down in less than 45- 50 minutes, but that will also come with time. And if I could get my clients to not "HELP" me, they stiffen up, turn their hands or fingers, look at what I am doing pulling their fingers towards up towards them, and so on, I could be a lot faster. Anyway I got off track here, like I often do. I think it is awesome that you can still keep on going without having to use an e-file. Shannon A. Maureen Solan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, with the possibility of really getting my head chewed off---I have been doing nails for 31 years and I have never used an e-file and I can do a full set and a fill in probably the same time and maybe faster than the techs using the e-file. Now I'm not saying that to show off so PLEASE dont judge me. I learned with a file and I am more comfortable with a Hand file. I never have rings of fire. I have better control. I just like it better. Maureen --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Vito Hotmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Vito Hotmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Hand filing To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 3:58 PM Hi ... i not starting any trouble, but i have a question... you said you graduated in feb... and passed the board in march... how is that possible? after you grad dont you have to send your paper work in and doesnt that take weeks to get back and then to take the test doesnt that take weeks and then to get your results back that should take weeks and then to schedule the board doesnt that take weeks... or does your state do it different than New York? vito.. just a question... ----- Original Message ----- From: Lisa Cianciotti To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Hand filing Elaine, I have cuticle lifting when I use an e-file and not when I hand file. Obviously, I am not doing something correctly. I also have talked to people who refuse to go to a nail salons who use e-files, probably because of misuse, I am sure. I don't want to be that tech that they are afraid to go to because I use an e-file. I graduated in Feb and passed boards in March. I have only worked one place for 4 months. The only way I can work in this business is to open my own salon at home. (I have 2 school-aged boys and run my husband's HVAC business). I have so many more things to learn! I had a terrible school experience!! Lisa ----- Original Message ---- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:51:31 PM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Hand filing Lisa, First, I was just curious as to why you would want to switch back from e-filing to hand filing. Mostly just curious as an educator :) Second....and I BEG ALL OF YOU.....do not work over wet primer. I don't care if the Pope told you to do it. Primer is most often times "methacrylic acid". If you have ever spilled your primer on yourself, you likely have a little burn scar to prove the strength of this acid. Acid needs to evaporate to dry. If you apply a fresh wet coat and go right over it with your product...you've prevented it from drying through evaporation. The only choice is has is product absorption and NAIL absorption. Every chemist (not tech...chemist) I have ever had this conversation with...cringes at the miss use of this product. A really good product should not need wet primer to hold on to the nail. Primer...when used correctly, is used sparingly. It is basically needed to change the PH of your nail and kill any last living thing on the nail that could have contaminated it. I'm on hands and knees begging...for the health of your clients nails....please...stop using wet primer with application (if you are doing it). Beggggggggggging. :) Elaine On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:09 AM, Lisa Cianciotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am considering going to all hand filing over using an e-file. Does anyone here do all hand filing, if so, how do you do your rebalance without using a drill? Also, when you put on primer do you let it dry or do you apply your product while the primer is still wet? I have a TT video and she put on 2 coats of primer. She lets the first one dry, then does a second coat, but applies the product while the 2nd coat is still wet. What is the best way? Thanks! Lisa Cianciotti - PA -- Elaine T. Watson Star Nail International Vice President of Marketing and Sales Global Education Director 800.782.7624 extension 321 fax 661.257.5847 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. 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