Okay-- glad you reiterated! I was thinking brush on resin!! BUT, now that there is curling, how the heck do I get it ti uncurl? She will not use oil. I tried. I really tried!! LOL Buenos dias, Lynnette http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
-----Original Message----- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:24:57 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: NailTech:: Naysayers and more.... Lynnette, It could be timing. Maybe she is now using a different brand of cleaner in her house that is pulling the moisture out of her nails. Environmental can have a lot to do with it. Also, remember acrylic is more ridged. It can fight the curl so long as the nail stays stuck to the acrylic. Soak off Gel is more flexible. A thinner application might not be stiff enough to stop the curl. it might just be going along for the ride. But again, it could also be something that is effecting her nails now that wasn't before. 100% sure curling begins with dry nails. And to answer the question yes...the back side of the nail. As the free-edge grows away from the nail bed, it's the only natural nail exposed to the elements. So that is where the moisture in her nails evaporates. If her hands are constantly in water and she has that nail type that can swell with moisture...the backs of those nails can still absorb moisture and then dehydrate. Which is why something as simple as household cleaner could concern you. Also, watch out for things like Windex with Acetone. Continuously cleaning with this and no gloves could damage SOG. Lynnette...I loved your dry brush test of removing the sticky layer from the clear before applying the darker colors that contain more UV initiator and can have shrinkage. I actually shared that with my 60 Brazil educators while in Rio last week. If you want to try an experiment on your client with curling, I'll gladly kick you some product for your time. I'd be curious to see if putting one or two coats of Clear gel under the nail might help her. Of course it will soak off every time and need to be applied but you could do it at the same time as the base. Don't forget to prep the backs too or remove the induction at the end so they aren't sticky. I wonder if that might help preventing curling on much longer free-edges. Just a thought. :) Kind Regards, Elaine T. Watson Star Nail International Vice President of Marketing and Sales Global Education Director 800.782.7624 extension 321 fax 661.257.5847 [email protected] Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Elaine, > I will have to try this. When you apply the brush on glue, are you putting > it UNDER the nail or on top? > I realize you are saying it could be with ANY SO, but it never happened to > her with the OPI. > Also, if it is true that the SO "could" be the culprit, why did her nails > not curl with MMA or traditional gel? That is what makes me think it is NOT > the SO!! Just an observation. > Oil?? I highly doubt I could ever get all my clients to do it faithfully. > And, I woud bet most techs on here do not have all their clients faithfully > using oil. Maybe a handful, but a very small percentage. :-D > Muchas gracias for all the help. > Buenos dias, > Lynnette > > http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > ------------------------------ > *From: * "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Date: *Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:17:03 -0700 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: NailTech:: Naysayers and more.... > > I just posted this to the boards, but wanted to post here too, just in case > everyone doesn't go to the boards: > > Curling Nails is something that can happen anytime you cover a natural nail > with any type of embellishment. To understand how it happens it is first, > important to understand more about the natural nail. > > Moisture comes from our beds and saturates the natural nail. It then passes > through the holes in our nail plates and evaporates. This is the natural > process. Nail types are all different. Just as skin and hair types are > different. Some clients have thicker stiffer nails, some have thicker > flexible nails, some have thin and stiff nails and some have thin and > flexible nails. It's all nail type. This also determines how long a client > can wear polish. If their nails have the ability to absorb more fluid > (either externally or through the bed) it can cause the nails to swell. Then > you apply polish (or artificial enhancement) to the nail and trap it at a > swollen size, then when the free edge extends all the moisture that was > trapped can evaporate out through the back of the nail instead of the top of > the nail. > > This won't happen to everyone. My nails get a slightly tighter c-curve when > I wear just clear coat ...then when my nails are naked. For that reason I > never go without (at the very least) a clear coat to make my nails look more > curved...not flat and wider as they shape out. > > OK so back to Soak of Gel (no matter what brand). When you put any covering > on the nails this will trap evaporating moisture. Again, depending on the > clients nail type this may or may not effect the structure of the nail. So > it is very safe to assume this client is losing lots of moisture through the > back of the nail and it is curling. > > I used to handle this one of two ways (when it happened with acrylics). > Retail that cuticle oil to those people that show this problem and beg them > to continuously put it on the nail daily. To put back in the moisture that > is leaving. Option two, brush on glue on the back of the free edge while > doing application will keep moisture trapped in the free edge. BUT it will > soak off when you remove the gel. So after you've reapplied gel, brushing on > a coat or two and using a spray activator will give her a fix that will last > long enough til her next re-application. > > I, personally, like option 1 and really hydrating the nail. BUT we all know > how well our clients like to listen to us. In one ear and out the other. > > I hope this helps you all with the problem. Thanks, Debbie for hollaring at > me and pointing me in the direction of this thread so I could help out. > > [image: Smile] Elaine > Kind Regards, > Elaine T. Watson > Star Nail International > Vice President of Marketing and Sales > Global Education Director > 800.782.7624 extension 321 > fax 661.257.5847 > [email protected] > Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:25 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Lisa, >> Have you oiled and applied right away? >> Inquiring minds and all..... >> Buenos dias, >> Lynnette >> >> http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:23:17 -0700 (PDT) >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: NailTech:: Naysayers and more.... >> >> While soaking them off. >> >> >> Lisa >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Sun, April 25, 2010 10:59:14 PM >> *Subject:* Re: NailTech:: Naysayers and more.... >> >> Lisa, >> Do they curl when you soak them off or while you are wearing the SO? >> Buenos dias, >> Lynnette >> http://www.facebook.com/nailtech >> >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:32:29 -0700 (PDT) >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: NailTech:: Naysayers and more.... >> >> My nails curl on the sides when I soak off the gel. It also happens to >> my sister-in-law. >> >> >> Lisa Cianciotti >> >> Simply Polished Studio for Nails >> >> Mount Pleasant, PA >> >> 724-423-1821 >> >> 724-858-5511 Cell >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Sun, April 25, 2010 7:18:02 AM >> *Subject:* NailTech:: Naysayers and more.... >> >> Had a client in the no chip call and say it is making her nails thin! >> Hmmmm--well really now? I have been doing this for quite some time and not >> one client has thinning nails. I have plenty of clients whose photos I took >> after filing the product off and there is NO damage or thinning. So, anyone >> else have any complaints? >> I have another client who wanted it off for two weeks to "see" how her >> nails are. How much do you want to bet she either does not come back or she >> breaks them and will blame the SO gel? >> Then this ones(see above) daughter thinks the SO is making her nail curl >> on the sides!! GEEZ. WTH is up with these people? >> Kudos to Elaine for sending me replacements for the empty containers and >> more Nudey Patudey aka English Rose!! >> But now I have to ask-- is the Velvet Cake supposed to be brown??? Had a >> client want that today, opened it up, and it was brown!!!!! The label is >> reddish!!! >> *I got bubbles on one of my clients with the soak off. Have NO idea WTH >> happened with that. Was not too thick an application. It was just weird. >> Will take pics of her when she comes next week. >> *I had my guinea pig come back that I mixed the SO base and nail polish. >> It worked out JUST FINE!!! Although it was a bit sheer, I pulled out the jar >> I mixed TWO weeks ago, added some black Star SO, a bit more Blues for Red >> and a tad of a Star red SO with a bit of the silver shimmer Star SO. WOW!! >> It was gorgeous. The gel from two weeks ago I mixed never got hard or >> filmy!!!! Will be posting the photos on Facebook soon. >> So girls, grab a bottle of polish and your base SO and make your own >> colors!!! It DOES work!! And a little goes a LONG way. BTW- I used Mani-Q to >> make the custom SO color. >> Pick up some very small paint containers from Michaels and mix away!! >> (I started this note on Thursday last week) >> Yesterday I had another client with the SO call who wants it removed-it is >> about six weeks out now. She cannot afford to continue with it right now. I >> told her how to remove it when she came in two weeks ago and I buffed and >> shortened them for free and gave her an old buffer. Not sure what it is that >> she cannot do it herself. . SIGH x 100!!!! LOL >> Prom week. I never take appointments unless they are clients' kids or if I >> get a 50% non-refundable deposit. . Sooooo, 4:00 Wed kid has an appointment. >> Mom tells me at HER Tuesday appt that the kid left home. Kid has trac >> phone-will not give # to parents. Guess who no shows? Irresponsible and I >> think tried to embarrass her mother by not having the courtesy to call. 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