Guys this has been bothering me for days. I was just going to walk away from this conversation, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that I need to do what I always do and speak my mind. So, I am sure my opinions are not going to be popular, but hey, at least I can rest easy knowing that I just didn't sit back and say nothing.
Last week when we were discussing the difficulty that "some" are having soaking off SOG, I recommended, based on previous advice and experience, that you only prime the free edge. I have found that if you prime the whole nail, it will not soak off easily. Now mind you, I do not use a MAP primer, aka acid primer. I never really have. I stared out in my career using CND, which is primerless and then went to YN, which uses an acid-free, stickey-based primer. A few companies still use and recommend MAP primers. Look around and a large majority of manufacturers have non-acid primers. Is MAP safe? Well, we guess so since companies are still allowed to legally sell and ship it, however, it does chemically etch the nail. It also chemically removes any oils or non-living tissue that is left on the nail. It also smells like an old, dirty foot. So the point I am getting to is a large majority of nail techs, especially ones that post on these boards are not using MAP primer any longer. Most are using an acid-free, stickey-based primer like Akzentz Affix, YN Protein Bond, Nailites Something Wonderful, just to name a few. People have had success using one or the other with many systems so to "me" and to "them" primer means what I listed, not MAP primer. So when they are told to "PRIME" that is what they are using......not MAP primer. So, when Elaine says "primer is not needed but for the ultimate long lasting sog, you CAN use primer. Now does it make it take longer to soak off, absolutely not. " I would like to ask, are you referring to MAP primer or acid free? Because I can tell you that I have tested YN Mani Q, Akzentz Options, Nailites SOG, and just recently your ECO SOG and I can tell you that if you use a non-acid primer on the entire nail, it will NOT soak off easily. I can't say how it is with MAP, because again, I do not use it. >From here on out I will refer to my primer as Protein Bond, because that is what I use for everything. Based on my testing, yes, I agree that with just about any SOG I've tried, priming of any type is not necessary, however, I have found that if you do not use Protein Bond on the free edge, you will have separation on some nails at the free edge within a week. Next, Roxanne had a client, who wanted gels but didn't want her to use primer. Again, this client must have had a bad experience with MAP. My guess is the former tech cut her, then flooded her cuticle area with MAP and we all know how that burns like heck. We all know that to apply a successful set of traditional gels, Roxanne is going to have to use a primer of some sorts and I would bet that the system that Roxanne uses recommends a primer like Protein Bond. So if you are going to educate the client about how the product (MMA) damaged her nails and the technician (NSS) damaged her nails, why wouldn't you take the next step and describe the difference between MAP and Protein Bond? Primer is primer whether you call it primer or bonder, the difference is what it does. One chemically etches the other bonds the product to the natual nail like double sided tape. Okay......off my soapbox. R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en.
