Elaine,

I had done my whites before I saw what you posted, but I believe I did them
how you said. I wiped the dispersion layer and then capped it all with
clear. They totally flaked all off.......

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:38 PM, [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Becky you did something wrong.  Did you follow the steps I posted?  I've
> been doing my frenches this way longer than I've had that white pen in the
> "Cina" brand.  I was doing my own frenches with testers so I'm sure there is
> something wrong in the steps.  Email me and we can chat it out.  Email me
> the steps you did.
>
> :) Elaine
>
>
> Kind Regards,
> Elaine T. Watson
> Star Nail International
> Vice President of Marketing and Sales
> Global Education Director
> 800.782.7624 extension 321
> fax 661.257.5847
> [email protected]
> Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Becky <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "With a smacked face!!!"
>>
>> On 5/14/10, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > LOL. Just use that pen for flowers. And no you will not!!! LMAO 'cause
>> you
>> > love me!
>> > L
>> > http://www.facebook.com/nailtech       Sent via BlackBerry from
>> T-Mobile
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Becky <[email protected]>
>> > Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 20:55:02
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Cina Whites Gone Missing!
>> >
>> > Ok LYNNETTE, IMA STOP telling you when things go wrong if you're going
>> > to keep saying "I told you so" !!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/14/10, [email protected] <
>> [email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> I told you!!! But did you listen????? LOL. Mine lasted two days. Not
>> >> good!!
>> >> I feel for you. (Chaka Khan)
>> >> Buenos dias,
>> >> Lynnette
>> >> http://www.facebook.com/nailtech       Sent via BlackBerry from
>> T-Mobile
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Becky <[email protected]>
>> >> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 20:36:38
>> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >> Subject: NailTech:: Cina Whites Gone Missing!
>> >>
>> >> Sweet MOTHER!!!
>> >>
>> >> My client with Cina white says all of her whites are gone.  This means
>> >> the client in Mexico is probably missing her whites too. This means
>> >> I'm going to poke myself in the eyes with sharp sticks!!!!
>> >>
>> >> Shellac french HERE I COME.
>> >>
>> >> On 5/14/10, Becky <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> Ronda, thanks for the detail here - I'm thinking my frenches will be
>> >>> with Shellac since it acts MOST like polish - but Elaine mentioned
>> >>> wiping off dispersion and using white SOG on the tip, which is where
>> >>> my problem was (whites moving) so I may try that too. I know it takes
>> >>> practice with a new medium but why fix whaty aint broke? My polish and
>> >>> ac frenches look great - lol... I know the SOG will bring in more
>> >>> natural nail clients so I must master this! *evil laugh*
>> >>>
>> >>> On 5/14/10, Rhonda Kibuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> Becky,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I too have been struggling with Frenches.  I think I may have
>> mastered
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> this week, using a variety of suggestions and products but you may be
>> >>>> able
>> >>>> to find a combination that works for you.  This is what I did...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Prepped nail - which amounts to push cuticle back, remove shine with
>> a
>> >>>> buffer and clean nail with YN Swipe.
>> >>>> Prime just the free edge with Protein Bond
>> >>>> Applied ECO Base Cured 2 min
>> >>>> Applied Pink, swiped the free edge with a dry brush to remove pink
>> and I
>> >>>> wasn't particular at all about it.  Cured 2 min
>> >>>> Removed tacky layer.
>> >>>> I then applied Shellac's Cream Puff, just like I would nail polish
>> and
>> >>>> cleaned up the smile line with my clean up brush.  This was almost
>> >>>> exactly
>> >>>> the look and feel of how you do it with polish.  I got the best
>> >>>> consistency
>> >>>> when I was applying it and it was like when your white nail polish
>> would
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> thick and you would kind of drag it on, with polish it looks crappy,
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> the gel it evens out and looks great.
>> >>>> There was no need to flash cure the whites, just cure 2 minutes
>> >>>> I then applied a SO gel top coat and it filled in all the nooks and
>> >>>> crannies
>> >>>> that were left by the gap between the pink and white and just
>> finished
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> perfection.  Cure 2 min
>> >>>> At the very end, and I do this also with all gel services, I filed
>> the
>> >>>> sidewalls and free edges to remove any scratchies and then sprayed
>> with
>> >>>> CND
>> >>>> Solar Speed Spray to finish the nails and hands with some solar oil
>> and
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> client's love the smell.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have the above listed on my own nails for three days now and it's
>> >>>> wearing
>> >>>> good even while in acetone and filing nails all day.  I have it on
>> two
>> >>>> client testers as well and so far so good!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hope this helps!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> R
>> >>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Becky <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> OK. *sigh*
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I am irritated with french manicures. I hate gel. LOL
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This week I've had several new clients asking about SOG's.
>> >>>>> Sooooooooooo,
>> >>>>> I've applied several FRENCH MANI's and I have some issues. I will be
>> as
>> >>>>> detailed as possible and feel free to chime in and correct me.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> French Mani #1
>> >>>>> - No base coat, only dehydration with ScrubFresh
>> >>>>> - Axxium Hawaiian Orchid applied directly to the nail, one coat
>> >>>>> - Dispersion layer LEFT, applied white SOG - flash cured  4 nails at
>> a
>> >>>>> time
>> >>>>> - White was way too thick, ended up BUFFING THE NAIL then topping
>> with
>> >>>>> top
>> >>>>> gloss and curing 2 min
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On this particular manicure, as I was dripping sweat down my neck -
>> >>>>> STRESSING OUT because I my french mani's are usually FLAWLESS in
>> >>>>> acrylic
>> >>>>> or
>> >>>>> polish. This SUCKED! I ended up buffing the nail gently to smooth
>> out
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> HUGE lip of white I had (I applied as thin as possible without being
>> >>>>> able
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> see brush marks - swiped the nails... cured. BEGIN PANIC ATTACK.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> She texts me the next day and says 2 of her nails are "lifting".
>> >>>>> BECAUSE
>> >>>>> the polish had gotten a little "crusty" on the free edge, I GENTLY
>> >>>>> filed
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> edge and apparently broke the seal - I'm not sure because I don't
>> >>>>> remember
>> >>>>> which nails this happened on WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT question:
>> How
>> >>>>> are
>> >>>>> you people capping a short free edge (like on the video that Holly
>> >>>>> posted)
>> >>>>> and NOT getting those little crusties on the edge?!??!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> French Mani #2
>> >>>>> - ScrubFresh THOROUGHLY, applied Protein Bond to free edge
>> >>>>> - Axxium applied directly over nail
>> >>>>> - White CINA pen to tips
>> >>>>> - Top It Off Gloss top coat
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On this one (same client, I had her remove all product and I re-did
>> her
>> >>>>> nails), I applied Axxium, removed the dispersion layer and used the
>> >>>>> CINA
>> >>>>> Nail Art Pen to apply the white. Looks great, ok, moving on to other
>> >>>>> hand
>> >>>>> -
>> >>>>> come back to the first hand and some of the white has gotten spotty!
>> >>>>> REAPPLIED another coat of white, touched up - applied Top Gloss,
>> >>>>> DRAGGED
>> >>>>> HALF THE WHITE ONTO THE NAIL BED! ARGHHHHHH............ REMOVED ALL
>> >>>>> WHITES,
>> >>>>> tried again (remember the sweating from earlier? Yes, the pits are
>> >>>>> drenched
>> >>>>> and I'm frreeeakkinngg out inside, keeping my cool on the
>> outside.....
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>> feel a bead of sweat come down the FRONT OF MY NECK, LOL!!! Second
>> >>>>> attempt
>> >>>>> of Cina application - allowed it to dry more thoroughly and left a
>> >>>>> "buffer"
>> >>>>> of gloss on the brush so I wouldn't drag it this time, capped free
>> edge
>> >>>>> (made sure to cover ALL Cina so it wouldn't wipe off) - cured, BAM!
>> >>>>> Gorgeous......the only exception is that the whites weren't perfect
>> >>>>> because
>> >>>>> that pen wasn't perfect, but that was only seen by ME - otherwise it
>> >>>>> was
>> >>>>> very nice.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> French Mani #3
>> >>>>> - ScrubFresh thoroughly only
>> >>>>> - Axxium applied directly to nail
>> >>>>> - White Cina Pen to tips
>> >>>>> - Top it Off top coat
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This one went well, but I did have to file the free edge on a couple
>> >>>>> again
>> >>>>> (did this one before I heard that French Mani #1 had "lifted") so
>> I'm
>> >>>>> scared
>> >>>>> to death she's going to call and say hers are lifting too.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Notes: I HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE GEL FRENCH MANI's. I need an
>> >>>>> EASY
>> >>>>> way to do these and have them look great. So far, the best method
>> has
>> >>>>> been
>> >>>>> applying the pink and swiping (reverse application) flash curing one
>> >>>>> hand,
>> >>>>> do the other hand, flash cure - apply white, butting it up against
>> the
>> >>>>> pink
>> >>>>> where you swiped (so take care to make the swipe accurate) IF I am
>> to
>> >>>>> use
>> >>>>> SOG for the entire process. If I use the Cina pen, I need some
>> advice
>> >>>>> on
>> >>>>> whether to apply it over the dispersion layer or not and how to take
>> >>>>> care
>> >>>>> not to get the CRUSTIES on the free edge!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I absolutely recommend that you do NOT file the free edge no matter
>> how
>> >>>>> jagged it ends up - but I need to make sure it doesn't happen
>> because
>> >>>>> clients will pick!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> MUCH advice needed!
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