Did not work for me either. Buenos noches, Lynnette http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
-----Original Message----- From: Rhonda Kibuk <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 23:15:40 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: NailTech:: Cina Whites Gone Missing! Becky, I did the exact same thing, ECO base, ECO Pink, removed tacky layer, did whites with CINA Pen, let dry, applied Clear and my whites were coming off within four hours. The only think I can think of is that the white wasn't dry? They were dry to the touch! R On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Becky <[email protected]> wrote: > Elaine, > > I had done my whites before I saw what you posted, but I believe I did them > how you said. I wiped the dispersion layer and then capped it all with > clear. They totally flaked all off....... > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:38 PM, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Becky you did something wrong. Did you follow the steps I posted? I've >> been doing my frenches this way longer than I've had that white pen in the >> "Cina" brand. I was doing my own frenches with testers so I'm sure there is >> something wrong in the steps. Email me and we can chat it out. Email me >> the steps you did. >> >> :) Elaine >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> Elaine T. Watson >> Star Nail International >> Vice President of Marketing and Sales >> Global Education Director >> 800.782.7624 extension 321 >> fax 661.257.5847 >> [email protected] >> Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Becky <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> "With a smacked face!!!" >>> >>> On 5/14/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > LOL. Just use that pen for flowers. And no you will not!!! LMAO 'cause >>> you >>> > love me! >>> > L >>> > http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from >>> T-Mobile >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Becky <[email protected]> >>> > Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 20:55:02 >>> > To: <[email protected]> >>> > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Cina Whites Gone Missing! >>> > >>> > Ok LYNNETTE, IMA STOP telling you when things go wrong if you're going >>> > to keep saying "I told you so" !! >>> > >>> > >>> > On 5/14/10, [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> I told you!!! But did you listen????? LOL. Mine lasted two days. Not >>> >> good!! >>> >> I feel for you. (Chaka Khan) >>> >> Buenos dias, >>> >> Lynnette >>> >> http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from >>> T-Mobile >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Becky <[email protected]> >>> >> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 20:36:38 >>> >> To: <[email protected]> >>> >> Subject: NailTech:: Cina Whites Gone Missing! >>> >> >>> >> Sweet MOTHER!!! >>> >> >>> >> My client with Cina white says all of her whites are gone. This means >>> >> the client in Mexico is probably missing her whites too. This means >>> >> I'm going to poke myself in the eyes with sharp sticks!!!! >>> >> >>> >> Shellac french HERE I COME. >>> >> >>> >> On 5/14/10, Becky <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Ronda, thanks for the detail here - I'm thinking my frenches will be >>> >>> with Shellac since it acts MOST like polish - but Elaine mentioned >>> >>> wiping off dispersion and using white SOG on the tip, which is where >>> >>> my problem was (whites moving) so I may try that too. I know it takes >>> >>> practice with a new medium but why fix whaty aint broke? My polish >>> and >>> >>> ac frenches look great - lol... I know the SOG will bring in more >>> >>> natural nail clients so I must master this! *evil laugh* >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/14/10, Rhonda Kibuk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Becky, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I too have been struggling with Frenches. I think I may have >>> mastered >>> >>>> it >>> >>>> this week, using a variety of suggestions and products but you may >>> be >>> >>>> able >>> >>>> to find a combination that works for you. This is what I did... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Prepped nail - which amounts to push cuticle back, remove shine with >>> a >>> >>>> buffer and clean nail with YN Swipe. >>> >>>> Prime just the free edge with Protein Bond >>> >>>> Applied ECO Base Cured 2 min >>> >>>> Applied Pink, swiped the free edge with a dry brush to remove pink >>> and I >>> >>>> wasn't particular at all about it. Cured 2 min >>> >>>> Removed tacky layer. >>> >>>> I then applied Shellac's Cream Puff, just like I would nail polish >>> and >>> >>>> cleaned up the smile line with my clean up brush. This was almost >>> >>>> exactly >>> >>>> the look and feel of how you do it with polish. I got the best >>> >>>> consistency >>> >>>> when I was applying it and it was like when your white nail polish >>> would >>> >>>> get >>> >>>> thick and you would kind of drag it on, with polish it looks crappy, >>> >>>> with >>> >>>> the gel it evens out and looks great. >>> >>>> There was no need to flash cure the whites, just cure 2 minutes >>> >>>> I then applied a SO gel top coat and it filled in all the nooks and >>> >>>> crannies >>> >>>> that were left by the gap between the pink and white and just >>> finished >>> >>>> it >>> >>>> to >>> >>>> perfection. Cure 2 min >>> >>>> At the very end, and I do this also with all gel services, I filed >>> the >>> >>>> sidewalls and free edges to remove any scratchies and then sprayed >>> with >>> >>>> CND >>> >>>> Solar Speed Spray to finish the nails and hands with some solar oil >>> and >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> client's love the smell. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I have the above listed on my own nails for three days now and it's >>> >>>> wearing >>> >>>> good even while in acetone and filing nails all day. I have it on >>> two >>> >>>> client testers as well and so far so good! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Hope this helps! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> R >>> >>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Becky <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> OK. *sigh* >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I am irritated with french manicures. I hate gel. LOL >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> This week I've had several new clients asking about SOG's. >>> >>>>> Sooooooooooo, >>> >>>>> I've applied several FRENCH MANI's and I have some issues. I will >>> be as >>> >>>>> detailed as possible and feel free to chime in and correct me. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> French Mani #1 >>> >>>>> - No base coat, only dehydration with ScrubFresh >>> >>>>> - Axxium Hawaiian Orchid applied directly to the nail, one coat >>> >>>>> - Dispersion layer LEFT, applied white SOG - flash cured 4 nails >>> at a >>> >>>>> time >>> >>>>> - White was way too thick, ended up BUFFING THE NAIL then topping >>> with >>> >>>>> top >>> >>>>> gloss and curing 2 min >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On this particular manicure, as I was dripping sweat down my neck - >>> >>>>> STRESSING OUT because I my french mani's are usually FLAWLESS in >>> >>>>> acrylic >>> >>>>> or >>> >>>>> polish. This SUCKED! I ended up buffing the nail gently to smooth >>> out >>> >>>>> the >>> >>>>> HUGE lip of white I had (I applied as thin as possible without >>> being >>> >>>>> able >>> >>>>> to >>> >>>>> see brush marks - swiped the nails... cured. BEGIN PANIC ATTACK. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> She texts me the next day and says 2 of her nails are "lifting". >>> >>>>> BECAUSE >>> >>>>> the polish had gotten a little "crusty" on the free edge, I GENTLY >>> >>>>> filed >>> >>>>> the >>> >>>>> edge and apparently broke the seal - I'm not sure because I don't >>> >>>>> remember >>> >>>>> which nails this happened on WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT question: >>> How >>> >>>>> are >>> >>>>> you people capping a short free edge (like on the video that Holly >>> >>>>> posted) >>> >>>>> and NOT getting those little crusties on the edge?!??! >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> French Mani #2 >>> >>>>> - ScrubFresh THOROUGHLY, applied Protein Bond to free edge >>> >>>>> - Axxium applied directly over nail >>> >>>>> - White CINA pen to tips >>> >>>>> - Top It Off Gloss top coat >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On this one (same client, I had her remove all product and I re-did >>> her >>> >>>>> nails), I applied Axxium, removed the dispersion layer and used the >>> >>>>> CINA >>> >>>>> Nail Art Pen to apply the white. Looks great, ok, moving on to >>> other >>> >>>>> hand >>> >>>>> - >>> >>>>> come back to the first hand and some of the white has gotten >>> spotty! >>> >>>>> REAPPLIED another coat of white, touched up - applied Top Gloss, >>> >>>>> DRAGGED >>> >>>>> HALF THE WHITE ONTO THE NAIL BED! ARGHHHHHH............ REMOVED ALL >>> >>>>> WHITES, >>> >>>>> tried again (remember the sweating from earlier? Yes, the pits are >>> >>>>> drenched >>> >>>>> and I'm frreeeakkinngg out inside, keeping my cool on the >>> outside..... >>> >>>>> I >>> >>>>> feel a bead of sweat come down the FRONT OF MY NECK, LOL!!! Second >>> >>>>> attempt >>> >>>>> of Cina application - allowed it to dry more thoroughly and left a >>> >>>>> "buffer" >>> >>>>> of gloss on the brush so I wouldn't drag it this time, capped free >>> edge >>> >>>>> (made sure to cover ALL Cina so it wouldn't wipe off) - cured, BAM! >>> >>>>> Gorgeous......the only exception is that the whites weren't perfect >>> >>>>> because >>> >>>>> that pen wasn't perfect, but that was only seen by ME - otherwise >>> it >>> >>>>> was >>> >>>>> very nice. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> French Mani #3 >>> >>>>> - ScrubFresh thoroughly only >>> >>>>> - Axxium applied directly to nail >>> >>>>> - White Cina Pen to tips >>> >>>>> - Top it Off top coat >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> This one went well, but I did have to file the free edge on a >>> couple >>> >>>>> again >>> >>>>> (did this one before I heard that French Mani #1 had "lifted") so >>> I'm >>> >>>>> scared >>> >>>>> to death she's going to call and say hers are lifting too. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Notes: I HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE GEL FRENCH MANI's. I need an >>> >>>>> EASY >>> >>>>> way to do these and have them look great. So far, the best method >>> has >>> >>>>> been >>> >>>>> applying the pink and swiping (reverse application) flash curing >>> one >>> >>>>> hand, >>> >>>>> do the other hand, flash cure - apply white, butting it up against >>> the >>> >>>>> pink >>> >>>>> where you swiped (so take care to make the swipe accurate) IF I am >>> to >>> >>>>> use >>> >>>>> SOG for the entire process. If I use the Cina pen, I need some >>> advice >>> >>>>> on >>> >>>>> whether to apply it over the dispersion layer or not and how to >>> take >>> >>>>> care >>> >>>>> not to get the CRUSTIES on the free edge! >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I absolutely recommend that you do NOT file the free edge no matter >>> how >>> >>>>> jagged it ends up - but I need to make sure it doesn't happen >>> because >>> >>>>> clients will pick! >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> MUCH advice needed! >>> >>>>> -- >>> >>>>> Becky F. >>> >>>>> Licensed Nail Tech >>> >>>>> KC, Mo. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> -- >>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >>>>> Groups >>> >>>>> "NailTech" group. >>> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >>>>> [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> >>> <nailtech%[email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> >>> > >>> >>>>> . >>> >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >>>> Groups >>> >>>> "NailTech" group. >>> >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >>>> [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> >>> . >>> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> >>> >>> >>> Becky F. >>> >>> Licensed Nail Tech >>> >>> KC, Mo. >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Sent from my mobile device >>> >> >>> >> Becky F. >>> >> Licensed Nail Tech >>> >> KC, Mo. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> >> "NailTech" group. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >> [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> >>> . >>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> >> "NailTech" group. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >> [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> >>> . >>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Sent from my mobile device >>> > >>> > Becky F. >>> > Licensed Nail Tech >>> > KC, Mo. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > "NailTech" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> >>> . >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > "NailTech" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> >>> . >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> >>> Becky F. >>> Licensed Nail Tech >>> KC, Mo. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "NailTech" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Becky F. > Licensed Nail Tech > KC, Mo. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. 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