OK...just read everyone's response as well as Veronica's problems.
Phew...you are all amazing at helping each other.

1) am sure it's soak off gel Veronica because we do not have orange or black
in our hard gel category.  Just the runway collection (pinks and reds) and
the pastel gel collection.  Also, we do not have "base coat" in the hard gel
category.  It is a one gel system.

2) the pop up tunnel light is a 6 watt uv lamp.  FAR FAR FAR too low a uv
wattage for anything with pigment in it.  It was on clearance because it's
too low a wattage for basically anything but UV Topcoat.  You definitely
need a 36 watt lamp for the Soak off Gels.

Use Lorraine's step by step for how to.  Be sure to use our finishing wipe
as your dehydrator NOT a competitor.  For sure, I've tested some competitors
dehydrators and it rejected.

Lastly....YES I have methods to most of my madness hahha.  (occasionally
it's just the madness)  I say in instructions 3 min cure for colors.  BUT I
do that to protect clients from people that do not change their bulbs.  If
you are a good little doobie and you change your bulbs you have my blessing
to do a 2 minute cure.  I only do 2 min cures.  The gel is beautiful.
Basecoat is still 30.  And if you use Lorraine's method with clear over
top.... I'll even grant you 1:30 on curing that.  You'll have AMAZING shine.

Sorry I'm so slow catching up with you all.  I'm only just back from London
and still off on my time zone.  Lainey needs a seriously long weekend to
recover.  I'm still off to Canada next week.  sniff sniff.

Kind Regards,
Elaine T. Watson
Star Nail International
Vice President of Marketing and Sales
Global Education Director
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Veronica Mora <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Thank you all for the information. it helps, now what is a good light for
> the gels i am using. i did order the so quick eno gels i dont know if that
> is what they sent me. all i got in the package was base orange and black
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:02:10 -0700
> From: [email protected]
>
> Subject: Re: NailTech:: Star nail gels
> To: [email protected]
>
>
>  No, I have not tried 2 coats of base, I will have to do that and see if
> it makes a difference...thanks!
>
> Lisa
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> *From:* Debbie Doerrlamm <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Fri, September 17, 2010 9:40:00 AM
> *Subject:* Re: NailTech:: Star nail gels
>
> Lisa,
> No the DVD does not show the scrubbing. That is something I stated to do
> myself and found it really helped with the little bit of shrink-back I was
> experiencing. The darker colors need to be REALLY stirred up. Do not worry
> about bubbles, they will pop out as the gel sits and pop when applied.
>
> Has anyone tried 2 base coats on those with weaker/damaged nails?
>
> Lorraine, web girl
> www.ManicuresThatLast.com
>
>
> <http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/>At 10:47 PM 9/16/2010, you wrote:
>
>  I do see more problems with the clients that have weaker nails also.  My
> steps are what you have listed, but I have only one comment.  The Eco DVD
> does not show scrubbing on the base coat, nor does it show thin coats.  At
> least not what I consider to be thin coats.  When I use coats similar to
> what the DVD shows, that is when I tend to have the rubbery, peeling off of
> the whole nail color issue.  Also when I use thin coats the color is not
> very bold, expecially with the dark colors.  I usually need 3 coats...JMHO
>
>
> Lisa Cianciotti
>
> Simply Polished Studio for Nails
>
> Mount Pleasant, PA
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Manicures That Last <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Thu, September 16, 2010 1:51:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: NailTech:: Star nail gels
>
> Ladies, not all nails are created equal :)
>
> I have not had any issues with eco coming off like that but a friend has.
> We adjusted her application and no more problems.
>
> Immaculate and thorough prep is essential.
> Lightly buff the shine off the plate
> Cleanse with eco Wipe
> Apply eco Base VERY thin - I have been using a scrubbing method of
> application for the base
> Cure 30 seconds in a 36w 4 bulb lamp
> Apply 2 thin coats of the color, curing each layer 2-3 minutes depending on
> if your lamp is new, bulbs are new and you wipe the bulbs down weekly to
> keep them working at optimum output.
> Top with eco Polish Sealer after removing the dispersion layer
> --OR--
> Leave the dispersion layer and top with eco Clear, cure for 2-3 more
> minutes then Wipe the dispersion layer off.
>
> I have found less than healthy nails do have problems with these soak off
> gels. I have also seen those being transitioned from acrylics or hard gels
> experiencing problems - some chipping, breakage - for the first 4-6 weeks. I
> have also had 2 people tell me they had trouble with the base/color coats
> after using CND's ScrubFresh for prep - something in there reacted adversely
> with the gel.
>
> If you cured it TOO long then you could experience issues. If you applied
> the product too thick, you may see problems - mostly soak off time increase
> as well as the coming off in one piece problem. Longer is not always better
> - hahah that makes me think of that disgusting commercial I hear all the
> time on the satellite radio station.
>
> We realize you all hate spending money where you don't have to, and not
> buying the Wipe & Removal Solution will indeed save you money, but long term
> it will cost you time working with other products and time is money right?
>
> Those of you experiencing problems, if your application varies from this,
> let me know so I can help you trouble shoot!
>
> Lorraine, web girl
> www.ManicuresThatLast.com
>
>
>
> <http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/>At 01:08 PM 9/16/2010, you wrote:
>
> I have the same problem with Eco on occasion too, but only on some clients
> and I am doing the exact same steps on everyone...
>
>
> Lisa Cianciotti
>
> Simply Polished Studio for Nails
>
> Mount Pleasant, PA
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Thu, September 16, 2010 1:01:30 PM
> *Subject:* Re: NailTech:: Star nail gels
>
> I had the same problem with eco
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> ------------------------------
> *From: *Manicures That Last <[email protected]>
> *Sender: *[email protected]
> *Date: *Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:39:09 -0400
> *To: *<[email protected]>
> *ReplyTo: *[email protected]
> *Subject: *RE: NailTech:: Star nail gels
>
> Which gel was it Veronica? Was it eco So Quick or a different one?
>
> Lorraine
>
>
> At 12:13 PM 9/16/2010, you wrote:
>
> I just got star nail gels and i cured them for the correct amount of time
> plus some. Well to cut to the point the gel lifted completely off my nail
> without peeling my nail ir chipping. It was super flexable. Im not quite
> sure what happened. All of my nails that have the gel polish are peeling,
> not chipping, PEELING like rubber.  Please help. I am supposed to be trying
> this out and I dont know if it was something that i did wrong.
>
> Veronica
>
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