Correct Lorraine. You have to add specific initiators to the formula to cure in a UV lamp and to cure in an LED Lamp. So if a gel cures in both, it has two chemical initiators. If it cures in a UV only...it doesn't have the initiator that reacts to LED.
I'm finding, in my research that not all LED's are the same either. I have a lamp here I got as a test sample and I'm finding it isn't curing product that says will cure in LED. It's tricky. I'll get real skinny on all of this for you guys. If the truth comes out that not all formulations will fit any one machine, I'll let you know. I'm trying!!! :) Elaine Kind Regards, Elaine T. Watson Star Nail International Vice President of Marketing and Sales Global Education Director 800.782.7624 extension 321 fax 661.257.5856 [email protected] Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Manicures That Last < [email protected]> wrote: > Marsha, > > Yes that is what I understand, gels that are not formulated to cure in a > LED lamp will either not cure properly or will cause extreme heat spikes. I > have no real proof to give you but I do know I heard that maybe even from > Elaine. > > Absolutely you can fill eco. If you are using the same color, lightly take > it down, prep and reapply. So the application really should never get very > thick at all. > > One extra coat of extremely thin base should not make a huge difference in > thickness. I have glitter on my tips now - base, color, color with glitter, > clear. I would have to say they are slightly thicker than regular polish, > but no where near as thick as even salon acrylics might be. They really are > quite thin still even with the glitter. O can take a barrel picture if you > like. > > Lorraine > > > > At 10:10 PM 9/23/2010, you wrote: > > Interesting Kelley. So your nails don't get too thick by adding new Eco > over old? I'll be waiting to hear how long it takes to completely remove the > Eco, when that time comes. I think I read Elaine says you can fill Eco. > > I also think I read on this list, that the LED lamp cures gels which are > formulated to cure in a LED lamp. Which I think means other gels either > won't cure or will cure but with a huge heat spike. > > Marsha Rubino > Gimme Nails @ Skin Envy Day Spa > 38 First Ave E. Ste. E > Kalispell, MT 59901 > 406-755-3771 > > > > *From:* Kelley Marie <[email protected]> > *To:* NailTech <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thu, September 23, 2010 11:53:54 AM > *Subject:* NailTech:: Re: Research Question. I'd love your answer. > > Elaine, > > I use different gels and the same uv lamp ( eco lamp) for them I do > one hand at a time, and pull out the cnd lamp for when I polish or use > shellac because of the fan in it. > > I use gelousy one step( 4 ms), star nail thick clear ( 10 yrs ), eco > soak off gel( 4 ms), shellac(3ms), and am thinking of trying TEN. > before I purchased the eco line I used 2 9 watt lamps one for each > hand no timer just leave it on and clients left their hand in till I > was ready for it. So I had never used a timer before this summer. I > have noticed like Angie that my clients will pull their hand out when > the light goes off when before they never did I have found myself > telling them " you can just leave that in there please." > > I guess the benefit of a led lamp for me would be not purchasing bulbs > all the time, but I would still have to use my cnd lamp for the > shellac would I not? > > dont know I may just be rambling on here. > > and for the record, I put on my eco and 2weeks later, lightly file new > color, and 2 weeks later lightly file and a new color. so I now have 3 > layers of eco on my finger nails and they still are in wonderful > shape! ( this stuff rocks! I just want to change my polish all the > time now that I can wear it .) > > Kelley Marie > > > On Sep 22, 11:48 am, "[email protected]" < [email protected]> > wrote: > > I like to think of this emailing list as a little fish bowl of > information. > > Even when I'm not replying, I'm reading all of your emails and responses. > > It frequently helps me with my research. I'm currently working on my > next > > project. I can't say too much just yet, but I do have a question for > each > > of you. > > > > LED vs UV > > > > Tony and I were getting heavily involved in LED to the point where I've > > designed a very special lamp. But while in London I made a startling > > discovery while demonstrating Soak Off UV Gel. > > > > On average, color app takes me about 15 minutes. 20 minutes tops. That > > isn't counting prep. I count that in the manicure service. I mean > actual > > color app. I'm about the same as Polish. My longest cure is 2:00 (color > > coats). I was never waiting on the lamp. My 2 min timer would shut the > > lamp off just as I was finishing my last nail. So I would immediately > put > > the hand I was working on in the lamp and take the other hand out without > > missing a beat. > > > > This got me thinking. If I continue on this LED thing....why does 10 > > seconds cure time matter? If her coat is cured, but I still take 2 > minutes > > to apply my next layer, what good is it to be done curing in 10 seconds? > It > > was really funny that a show attendee that I was demo'ing on was the one > > that enlightened me to this. I'm so busy with work stuff here, that I > > didn't think like a tech and observe this all on my own. > > > > I need arguments for both sides. I just am not so sure I want to > continue > > my LED project unless it is really going to be something beneficial to > all > > of you. > > > > Thanks to you all, in advance. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Elaine T. Watson > > Star Nail International > > Vice President of Marketing and Sales > > Global Education Director > > 800.782.7624 extension 321 > > fax 661.257.5856 > > [email protected] > > Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > Lorraine, webgirl > > www.ManicuresThatLast.com <http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/> > eco So Quick Soak Off > Turn your Part-Time Clients into Full-Time Bookings! > 3 Minutes On, 5 Minutes Off - Guaranteed > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. 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