Karen,
Soooooo Happy to hear you have found the answer to your situation. Sometimes it's just best to be on your own. Sheryl From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re: Question for booth renting salon owners I agree with Kelley...this is a BUSINESS and you need (deserve) to be treated as a fully professional business woman. The landlord (owner) taking away something that you'd agreed upon when you started the deal nullifies that deal! You should be either renegotiate a lower amount...or leave with no penalty. Don't let them guilt you. A deal is a deal! I have given up trying to find space in an existing salon....didn't happen. So....now I am renting space in a salon suite situation (they're very big here in Dallas area). This was advertised to me as 8' x 10', 80 square feet....for $150 per week, which comes to $649.50/mo. Amenities include water, sewer, electricity, trash and simple cable TV (and a flat screen TV mounted in your room), sink in your room, nice common area bathrooms and waiting area, W/D on the premises and a break room with fridge, micro, dishwasher. After I signed the papers and actually got in there to clean...it measures out at 7.5' by 10'....which is 75 square feet. I got them to knock some of the rent off the first few weeks, so I'll live with it. I told the leasing agent I was NOT happy with their misrepresentation. She tried to say, "Well the suites are actually measured from the middle of the walls for each unit" BUT if that is true, then why didn't they say the space was 8' x 10 1/2'??? You can't have it both ways! I told her she needed to be more precise and state "usable space" in the future.... <sigh> ANYWAY...when comparing commercial rental space, this prices out to $8.33/square foot, (or if it's quoted on an annual basis, as sometimes is done, $104/sq ft) which is actually pretty high, but the utilities makes it come back into balance. ($150/75 = $2 x 4.33 wks per month x 12 mos) Keep this in mind when doing your homework....I feel it's really no one's business what I make in my space, so basing my rent on my income is not something I'd want to do. Just saying. Good luck! Karen Grapevine Where Morning Glory, flowers again! lol From: Kelley <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:19 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re: Question for booth renting salon owners I agree with Jess, no pedicure chair. I would be looking somewhere else to go. I just moved from one place to a new place I now have my own space not community space and my rent is 300 a month . Up from 250 but well worth the extra in my opinion to not have people interjecting into my conversations and such. By taking away the pedi station it will make an impact on your income potential, and is like telling a hairdresser they can't do any perms. Limiting you is not in your best interest . and doing pedis in the waiting room is not good for you ( the proper ergonomics ) or the business. Good luck, if I know anything the women here only want to better our business and would never lead you astray . Kelley Sent from my iPad On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Jess in WA <[email protected]> wrote: I think 25% is quite high. I'm in a busy salon area, and at my last salon I was paying $500, the hair stylists paid between $1k-1500 - however they can make that in a day! Massage therapists also make far more per hour, so I can understand her paying more. Lots of salons get rid of nail tech spaces because it doesn't make as much money for the salon. Others keep them because they know its good foot traffic and they might choose other services. I think you should fight for a decrease with you having half the space as the other, and losing the pedi chair. One of the reasons I left my last salon and got my own space is because they took my pedi room away and I was then doing pedis out in the main waiting area, which wasn't comfortable and far too loud. I think if she's going to take equipment away that needs to make a difference. Jess On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:38:38 PM UTC-7, ebbieday in VA wrote: I am doing research to back my case in my current salon. I booth rent for $500.00/month, which is somewhat high for my area. The owner has informed us (I am one of 2 booth renters...the other is a busy massage therapist) that our rent is going up by @25.00/month, and will increase by that amount every year. I think this is pretty steep. In 4 years I will be paying $600.00/month. and so on with no cap. I don't disagree on increasing rent yearly AS LONG as it is reasonable. This is where it gets even sticker. Initially I agreed to this rent figure because it included a plumbed pedi chair. The room is very small, and the chair has since been disposed of as it began leaking and couldn't be repaired (it was a used unit that they purchased before I started there. They told me they bought the pedi chair in order to attract a nail tech, which it did add to the allure.) They refused to replace it as a new unit was too expensive. I now have a sink in the room in the place of the chair. (yes, I have learned many lessons) I know that the massage therapist pays $25.00 less a month than I do, for more than double the space. My question is this: What is the normal standard expectation for basing rent and rent increases? My understanding is there are 2 ways of establishing rent. 1) by square footage, and 2) by income tier, with increase being based on a percentage of the base. (In our region, stylists commonly pay ~$150-$200/week, and nailtechs $100-$125/week to start). I am trying to learn so if I'm wrong, please let me know. I also know that an incoming stylist that is going to booth rent will also be paying the same rent as I am with the same increase yearly. The other 2 stylists are commission based. Does anyone have any input? Sorry so long. Thanks! Debbie in VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nailtech/-/VmGRs1yF7UYJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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