My problem with this line of thinking is that I don't want to merely "not prevent or discourage" students from joining. I want to strongly encourage them to. They're not the same thing.
-Steve On Oct 29, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Jay Hennigan <j...@west.net> wrote: > On 10/29/10 2:02 PM, Steve Gibbard wrote: >> On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Joe Provo wrote: >> >>>> 2) I'm not sure how happy I am to see student memberships gone. >>>> I like >>>> the idea that a student could pay a reduced fee to be a member, >>>> yes I do >>>> realize that the student can still attend the meeting without >>>> membership. >>> >>> I'll be more firm; I'm not happy. >> >> >> This seems like a fairly fundamental question of vision to me. > > The lack of a separate class of membership for students does not have > anything whatsoever to do with the educational mission or vision of > NANOG. > > The lack of a separate class of membership for students does not > prevent > or discourage discounted or even free dues for students. > > The lack of a separate class of membership for students does not bar > or > discourage students from attending NANOG events or prevent > discounted or > even free admission to such events. > > It simply eliminates a separate hard-coded-in-the-bylaws class of > member. > > In some ways, not having a separate class of membership puts students > who are NANOG members on a more equal footing. It eliminates, "Oh, > you're just a student member, not a FULL member like the rest of us." > > This was kicked around quite a but in the WG. Originally there were > classes of membership for students, life members, and "Fellows" in > addition to regular members. None had any true distinction in terms > of > defined rights and privileges. The only defined distinguishing > factor > was related to dues. It was decided to reduce the number of classes > of > member to one and let NANOG's elected representatives set the dues > structure outside of the definition of who is a member. > > There is strong support of discounted membership dues for students > and I > support the continuance of discounted student fees for meeting > attendance despite the marginal cost increase for the non-students. > > This isn't a vision thing. It is a means to, as someone else > suggested, > reduce to a minimum the number of used words to define membership. > > -- > Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net > Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ > Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV > > _______________________________________________ > Nanog-futures mailing list > Nanog-futures@nanog.org > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures _______________________________________________ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures