My problem with this line of thinking is that I don't want to merely  
"not prevent or discourage" students from joining.  I want to strongly  
encourage them to.  They're not the same thing.

-Steve



On Oct 29, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Jay Hennigan <j...@west.net> wrote:

> On 10/29/10 2:02 PM, Steve Gibbard wrote:
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Joe Provo wrote:
>>
>>>> 2) I'm not sure how happy I am to see student memberships gone.   
>>>> I like
>>>> the idea that a student could pay a reduced fee to be a member,  
>>>> yes I do
>>>> realize that the student can still attend the meeting without  
>>>> membership.
>>>
>>> I'll be more firm; I'm not happy.
>>
>>
>> This seems like a fairly fundamental question of vision to me.
>
> The lack of a separate class of membership for students does not have
> anything whatsoever to do with the educational mission or vision of  
> NANOG.
>
> The lack of a separate class of membership for students does not  
> prevent
> or discourage discounted or even free dues for students.
>
> The lack of a separate class of membership for students does not bar  
> or
> discourage students from attending NANOG events or prevent  
> discounted or
> even free admission to such events.
>
> It simply eliminates a separate hard-coded-in-the-bylaws class of  
> member.
>
> In some ways, not having a separate class of membership puts students
> who are NANOG members on a more equal footing.  It eliminates, "Oh,
> you're just a student member, not a FULL member like the rest of us."
>
> This was kicked around quite a but in the WG.  Originally there were
> classes of membership for students, life members, and "Fellows" in
> addition to regular members.  None had any true distinction in terms  
> of
> defined rights and privileges.   The only defined distinguishing  
> factor
> was related to dues.  It was decided to reduce the number of classes  
> of
> member to one and let NANOG's elected representatives set the dues
> structure outside of the definition of who is a member.
>
> There is strong support of discounted membership dues for students  
> and I
> support the continuance of discounted student fees for meeting
> attendance despite the marginal cost increase for the non-students.
>
> This isn't a vision thing.  It is a means to, as someone else  
> suggested,
> reduce to a minimum the number of used words to define membership.
>
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