I think there are some interesting conversations to be had (and John Curran is having them) around what government regulation in the Internet space looks like (RPKI is a big part of that). Tinfoil hat remarks like the below do not fall into that category.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 5:12 PM Mel Beckman via NANOG <[email protected]> wrote: > One thing is certain: When IPv6 is mandatory you’ll need a U.S. RealID to > route it in America. :) > > -mel > > > On Apr 1, 2025, at 1:48 PM, Jim Shankland via NANOG < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm not a grumpy old man, but I'm going to play one for a minute. > > > > The case for IPv6 was that the Internet was about to collapse, or at > least stall out, unless everybody switched over from IPv4. I don't remember > when I first heard that claim, but it was definitely in a year that started > with a "1". > > > > It may be true eventually, too -- who knows, maybe even soon. And yes, > there's been plenty of pain and trouble "behind the curtain" along the way. > But zoom out to the big picture, and things are still working in IPv4 land. > IPv6 will take over (perhaps quickly) once that stops. > > > > But until then, stickers and loaded language like "modern" and "legacy" > are unlikely to have any effect at all. > > > > I hope it's clear that I'm not arguing against IPv6. I've just been > watching the "drop dead" date when the transition would be absolutely > forced get pushed back for half my professional career: 30 years of "any > day now". > > > > Jim Shankland > > > > > >> On 3/27/25 10:07 AM, Lucien Hoydic via NANOG wrote: > >> Add RCN Chicago (Now Astound), to the list of companies that don't > support IPV6. > >> > >> I'm not "Astound"ed by their lack of support for modern technology > >> > >> > >>> On Wednesday, March 26th, 2025 at 1:00 PM, Andrew Latham via NANOG < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Today yet another ISP is running Fiber in the utility easement at the > >>> street. I checked and they do not offer IPv6 or have ANY IPv6 peering. > >>> > >>> I have offered the hard to find IPv6 Legacy Warning stickers on my > >>> Redbubble profile. About a month before any meeting or event I see a > bulk > >>> order for Amish IPv6 stickers designed by Phil Benchoff and hard to > find > >>> post Google+. I have the markup/profit set to the lowest setting and > have > >>> made maybe $8 over 5+ years. > >>> > >>> Linky: > >>> > https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/Legacy-IP-Warning-by-gringomalvado/38585698.EJUG5 > >>> > >>> Ranting a bit as I have four ISPs boxes at the street and two of them > do > >>> not have IPv6 in 2025. Converting my frustration into finding Phil and > >>> sending him some coffee money. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> - Andrew "lathama" Latham - > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> NANOG mailing list > >>> > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/E36ADONSJ6RWNOBV5JSKGVYZTY7VCS6J/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NANOG mailing list > >> > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/C2EYACUPLCEXTSWS54J4DPWBGYQRB6YV/ > > _______________________________________________ > > NANOG mailing list > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/JODZDERTINSZ5FDS2IPXWFMRMS4H3Z4I/ > _______________________________________________ > NANOG mailing list > > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/CZ3FZHFNSRNYWACNLKFTPSRR4IXL5GKG/ _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/4H4ZPQH5NMS3VEPI2JKKAZ6AQG7GHL4K/
