Brilliant! And also a pic of Bob Metcalfe 🙂
-mel ________________________________ From: John Curran <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 5:59 PM To: North American Network Operators Group <[email protected]> Cc: Mel Beckman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NANOG] IPv6 Legacy IP Warning Stickers Mel - If you do so, you can include one slide near the front that includes – “What didn’t Happen - RFC 5211” <chuckle> :-) /John > On Apr 1, 2025, at 8:34 PM, Mel Beckman via NANOG <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I can see it’s time to present a NANOG talk “How IPv6 saved the Internet” > > I’m just going to turn this thread into slides. The talk writes itself! > > -mel via cell > >> On Apr 1, 2025, at 5:03 PM, Mark Andrews via NANOG <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Single IPv6 stack in the home is achievable today. Single IPv6 stack in the >> enterprise is achievable today. Single IPv6 stack in the access network is >> achievable today. This is how most phones work today. The node if it needs >> to talk to an IPv4 server uses one of the forms of IPv4AAS. Most probably >> 464XLAT. There are billions of devices that do that today. >> >> Today if you attend conferences your IPv4 address is most probably 192.0.0.1 >> if they support IPv6-mostly (IPv4 option 108) and you have an up to date OS. >> >> Enabling IPv6-mostly on the access network will allow your IPv4 lease load to >> drop as CPE start to support it. >> >> The hard part will be turning down the IPv4 connections to your peers when >> the >> rest of the world has switched to IPv6. >> >> Mark >> >>> On 2 Apr 2025, at 10:05, Alex Buie via NANOG <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> At the risk of oversimplifying: >>> >>> “just because you can divide 8 apples between 2 people with long division >>> on paper, it’s a heck of a lot easier just to count off if you can get away >>> with it” >>> >>> >>> But this raises an interesting question; is there ever an actual end? What >>> does IPv6 adoption completion look like? Is there a definition of success? >>> You can almost certainly not buy a physical GP computer today at least that >>> does not support static IPv6 addressing in some manner, at least in terms >>> of network elements. And I could get IPv6 connectivity at nearly any >>> address in the US, (where I have experience) if I’m willing to pay enough >>> money for it. what else is there? Is IPv6 only considered successful with >>> IPv4 is truly turned off? There’s always gonna be people who want 32 bits >>> instead of 128 because it’s easier to carry around in your brain and doubly >>> so if you don’t even need the rest of those bits for what you’re trying to >>> do. >>> >>> The allure of only having to set up a single protocol stack is very strong, >>> but I just don’t see it happening in my lifetime in a “production” >>> capacity. >>> >>> You’re always gonna at least need some broker box somewhere with your last >>> /29 talking to the vestiges of the companies still running exchange 2003. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NANOG mailing list >>> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/MDVNX6WMAJV47OIIGGPYLZMCAHKPYBDE/ >> >> >> -- >> Mark Andrews, ISC >> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia >> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NANOG mailing list >> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/7BQSH35WPUEKTSRFOJIRGFYABWLM6IMS/ > _______________________________________________ > NANOG mailing list > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/DZS2DESH7DZ7H6VZIQRU6HYLDSKUXPJA/ _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/GRQEE5TD2C3TAB3GDODLJ6FLFBUBCF5M/
