Jonathan Kalbfeld
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> On Jul 21, 2025 at 5:17 PM, jonathan via NANOG <[email protected]>
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> Jonathan Kalbfeld
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> office: +1 310 317 7933
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> mobile: +1 310 227 1662
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> ThoughtWave Technologies, Inc.
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> > On Jul 21, 2025 at 2:41 PM, Ron Yokubaitis via NANOG
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> > "Hard cases make good Law."
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> > RonY
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> > > On Jul 21, 2025, at 4:03 PM, Mel Beckman via NANOG
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > David,
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> > > Thank you for supplying the factual data I was looking for. I’m happy
> > to now accept “most”.
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> > > Let us hope the slippery slope of anonymizing registration data
> > doesn’t creep into ARIN!
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> > > -mel
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> > > On Jul 21, 2025, at 1:24 PM, David Conrad <[email protected]>
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> > > On Jul 19, 2025, at 5:41 PM, Mel Beckman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > It’s not that I’m “going somewhere” with this comment. I’m just
> > looking for factual data, not wild guesses. I’ll accept “some” for now.
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> > > They weren’t "wild guesses”. As mentioned, my comments regarding
> > registrars redacting for privacy was in relation to my discussions with law
> > enforcement. This would appear to be corroborated by John McCormac’s post
> > that pointed to
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dnib.com_articles_interisle-2Dreport-2Dexamines-2Ddomain-2Dname-2Dcontact-2Ddata-2Davailability&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=j0RyxXxwnpCmSqoSZYvbAwrZgb09c8cpYDfGWknN0HfiGA4donrvcrH83MttE3st&s=HNhAt6Xw9R20rk1Pj0Tj-ITXDLXG90K7EXYZiuBTWTY&e=
> > which seems to confirm “most” (if not “if not all”). The TL;DR quote from
> > that paper:
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> > > "Since 2018, registrars also have expanded and promoted free privacy
> > proxy service offerings. Of the 20 largest registrars included in the
> > study, which collectively account for more than 70% of gTLD registrations,
> > a majority offer free proxy services, removing financial barriers to proxy
> > use for the majority of gTLD registrants.”
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> > > Since my day job causes me to be somewhat involved in never ending
> > registration data debacle, I did a quick check of the top registrars by
> > market share John listed. It appears:
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> > > Godaddy (27.6% market share): privacy on by default for all eligible
> > new domains
> > > Namecheap (8.04%): privacy on by default for all eligible new domains
> > > Tucows (includes Enom and Hover, 4.3%): on by default for all eligible
> > new domains
> > > Squarespace (formerly Google, 3.3%): on by default for all eligible
> > new domains
> > > GMO Internet (includes
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__onamae.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=j0RyxXxwnpCmSqoSZYvbAwrZgb09c8cpYDfGWknN0HfiGA4donrvcrH83MttE3st&s=uoaC7ef9fHZuYnOyn_w5D7ieZzQ-MCyy9ga_QBVpsHc&e=
> > and
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__z.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=j0RyxXxwnpCmSqoSZYvbAwrZgb09c8cpYDfGWknN0HfiGA4donrvcrH83MttE3st&s=MRl6alNNS_i0U5Bq8CXDNH4qCDW0qv4u9c5QR78WyuY&e=,
> > 2.37%): on by default for all eligible new domains
> > > Dynadot (2.21%): on by default for all eligible new domains
> > > Netsol: (2.16%): NOT on by default, a $9.99 added service
> > > Gname: (2.12%): NOT on by default, free for all eligible new domains
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> > > (I was only able to find one other registrar that doesn’t have privacy
> > on by default, Bluehost, but I didn’t bother figuring out their market
> > share or doing a further, exhaustive survey)
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> > > Translating that to operational impact, according to the first line of
> > the
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dnib.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=j0RyxXxwnpCmSqoSZYvbAwrZgb09c8cpYDfGWknN0HfiGA4donrvcrH83MttE3st&s=5ZsrGJY45ZbllizLyKjX1emApZIBr1LeQ-TuDxc_TNY&e=
> > paper, about "Nearly 90% of the internet’s generic top-level domain
> > (gTLD) names do not have identifying contact information in the
> > Registration Data Directory Services (RDDS) system […]”.
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> > > Is every good scientist knows, the absence of data is not data, and
> > the plural of anecdote is not data :-)
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> > > Ironically, the original aphorism was “the plural of anecdote is data”
> > (see
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__web.archive.org_web_20080523225000_http-3A__listserv.linguistlist.org_cgi-2Dbin_wa-3FA2-3Dind0407a-26L-3Dads-2Dl-26P-3D8874&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=j0RyxXxwnpCmSqoSZYvbAwrZgb09c8cpYDfGWknN0HfiGA4donrvcrH83MttE3st&s=QkUD_G-cq1lqEdKXDmHSbmGs-glweWBR0jxpODvg1Eg&e=).
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> > > Regards,
> > > -drc
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