On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:15 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote:
> The monopoly probably exists because it's so expensive to be there. There > are a ton of factors. If it was so easy, why don't you start up your own > ISP (with blackjack and hookers)? > The main ISP's are Optimum and Verizon. Verizon has DSL and never built out to my area. Optimum has fiber down the block but can't be bothered to bring it to mine (why spend the money of there is no one forcing them). If starlink or anyone else had satic IP's I would jump ship. > > Dovid - you didn't even answer the first question, why do you need a /29? > What problem are you trying to solve with a publicly routable block? > My home IP is white listed in a lot fo equipment. I also connect to customers networks and that requires it's own IP (I can't connect from the same IP that I use for my day to day work). > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:13 AM Dovid Bender <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Not answering for Aaron but I almost have the same issue. Where I am >> there is a monopoly. My *ONLY* option is a single ISP with coax. I got a >> /29 from them as I needed a few static IP's. I would love if they allowed >> BGP and would love it even more if we went back in time 10 years and had >> access to fiber..... >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:08 AM Josh Luthman via NANOG < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Aaron, >>> >>> As a small operator I would ask why you need a /29 the first place. >>> Second >>> why don't you just get your own ASN? >>> >>> Are you willing to pay more to support v6? Or do you think the ISP >>> should >>> add that service for free? >>> >>> Imo v6 is a joke because you still need v4 for a working Internet. I >>> understand there are benefits but this is 2025 and you can't get by >>> without >>> v4. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025, 10:03 AM Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > I wish they were dropping in my area. >>> > I called my backwoods ISP last week (they are a monopoly with ~4,000 >>> fiber >>> > customers) to go from a single static at my office to a /29 and they >>> said >>> > "It's $300/mo". >>> > I asked why it was so high and they said "My boss doesn't like >>> configuring >>> > them, so he set the price really high". >>> > Then I asked when IPv6 would be available and got the same answer I got >>> > back in 2019: "My boss said he was thinking about looking into it next >>> > year". >>> > >>> > -A >>> > >>> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:12 PM Tom Mitchell via NANOG < >>> > [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > v4 addresses have been dropping rapidly. They were as high as $65 >>> last >>> > > year. Now, there are offers for $11. Average market price now is >>> in the >>> > > mid-$20's. All the NA ISPs have been selling much of their >>> inventory. >>> > Why >>> > > not. >>> > > >>> > > - Tom >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 11:23 AM Mike Hammett via NANOG < >>> > > [email protected]> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > What are you using for guides for IPv4 pricing? There are a bunch >>> of >>> > > > undated blogs, which don't mean much if there's no date. >>> > > > >>> > > > Hilco's blog says somewhere around $27 for a /22 to /24: >>> > > > https://www.ipv4.global/reports/october-2025/ >>> > > > but then fast forward a month on their auction page and it's down >>> to >>> > $22: >>> > > > https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > These guys stopped updating in June: >>> > > > https://ipv4market.eu/ipv4-market-average-sale-prices-2025/ >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > ----- >>> > > > Mike Hammett >>> > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> > > > http://www.ics-il.com >>> > > > >>> > > > Midwest-IX >>> > > > http://www.midwest-ix.com >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > NANOG mailing list >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/UWJDG6X3FH73ELJRSEX4O4BIK7CS7EAQ/ >>> > > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > NANOG mailing list >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/2DP5TTAHK4CN2HXHNLLYN225JNLQYJIO/ >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > NANOG mailing list >>> > >>> > >>> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/5D2RDOWMRXX4634VKZO33X4YAR7RYMDK/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NANOG mailing list >>> >>> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/XWAJ5B7ZIBEPUGWIUKS42N3AM76AMWRV/ >> >> _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/75D3HNJATZJQFXVF67ZQ72CGRU4NKADX/
