Hello, I love seeing these old school descriptions of overflows and device 
compromise. Reminds me when I was doing SOC work for another company.Thank you 
and know some of us older guys and gals enjoy this immensely. Sincerely,Richard 
Golodner [email protected]
-------- Original message --------From: Intergalactic Auditor via NANOG 
<[email protected]> Date: 1/17/26  10:45  (GMT-06:00) To: North American 
Network Operators Group <[email protected]> Cc: Marco Moock 
<[email protected]>, Intergalactic Auditor <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 
ISP Operators AISURU/Kimwolf botnet Why use tor when you can ride the carriers 
wave?This report is an 
example:https://github.com/0verdu/Stepped-On_Silicon/blob/main/infrastructure/tmobile_usa.mdTor
 isn’t even in the picture. The setup bypasses the MVNO layer entirely and hits 
the MNO core to tunnel into private AWS space (172.31.35.241).When the C2 is 
integrated into the IMS core and uses a system-level NEVPN, it’s invisible to 
the user.-------- Original Message --------On Friday, 01/16/26 at 11:35 Tom 
Beecher via NANOG <[email protected]> wrote:>> How does this work if the 
devices use TOR to contact their command and> control server?The most detailed 
analysis I have seen makes no mention of C2s comms viaTOR.  If you have a 
reference that it does, can you share?On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 11:18 AM Marco 
Moock via NANOG <[email protected]> wrote:> Am 16.01.2026 um 16:12:43 Uhr 
schrieb Mel Beckman via NANOG:>> > One way to do this is via DDoS filtering 
services like Lumen’s Lotus> > Defender. These have been effective at 
disrupting the botnet's> > infrastructure by filtering the low-volume inbound 
control channel.> > Yes, such services are not free, but the problem on your 
network is> > due to your customers, not anybody else’s.  It is your 
customers’> > android IoT devices that are compromised.>> How does this work if 
the devices use TOR to contact their command and> control server?>> --> Gruß> 
Marco>> Send unsolicited bulk mail to [email protected]> 
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