> > The idea is absolute accountability for the data we provide. What you are > doing is generosity by maintaining a good geofeed. We deeply appreciate > your generosity. Again, we like geofeed, but we are focused on building an > independent system which involves allowing us to host a server in your ASN.
IP geolocation providers exist because parts of the industry made decisions that the location of an IP was needed for their product/service, and even though it should never have happened, the cat is out of the bag and that had to be dealt with. Geolocation providers are simply just collecting information about our networks, and monetizing that data. ASN published geofeeds exist because it was costing too much time and effort for ASNs to constantly correct the myriad of errors that the geolocation DBs had, so we came up with a way for ourselves, the people who KNOW where the IPs are, to publish that to the world. We didn't do it out of generosity, we did it because it made business sense. With all possible respect, there will NEVER be a time that a 3rd party company has more accurate information about the location that IPs are used than the network who has deployed those IPs. > We envision that we are approaching a stage where we are nearly invisible > to internet users and ISPs/ASNs, reminiscing about the days when IP > geolocation used to be a headache. IP geolocation will always be a headache, because IP geolocation itself is a terrible technical solution to the problem it attempts to solve. On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 3:02 PM Abdullah DevRel of IPinfo via NANOG < [email protected]> wrote: > The idea is absolute accountability for the data we provide. What you are > doing is generosity by maintaining a good geofeed. We deeply appreciate > your generosity. Again, we like geofeed, but we are focused on building an > independent system which involves allowing us to host a server in your ASN. > > We are not the only participant in the industry, so you are borderline > forced to maintain a geofeed to help out the industry. But our approach is > largely focused on independence and accountability. We own the supply chain > from end to end. We want to have a great partnership with everyone who is > focused on one thing: to ensure that internet users are not frustrated. > > We envision that we are approaching a stage where we are nearly invisible > to internet users and ISPs/ASNs, reminiscing about the days when IP > geolocation used to be a headache. > _______________________________________________ > NANOG mailing list > > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/WHG3YFMGKU6HVVQJXHBEAGW6PQRMBTXZ/ > _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/7JJBGHZMHVJX6KPLDGZC5S7AHOPN4M5F/
