So yes then.

> no... not really, not originally, it got morphed into 
> something different :( So, the ciscogate paranoia, as near as 
> I saw, got down to: "cisco wont tell people about vulns as 
> soon as they know about them" (or some version of I don't get 
> to know fast enough about vulns from a vendor, while we 
> currently bash on cisco)
> 
> With that in mind, the example 2500 above is a cisco box, 
> running old code because it can't be upgraded to current 
> code. Cisco is reluctant to tell folks in public about 
> vulnerabilities without there beig fixes for the problem in 
> as much running code as possible.
> 
> -Chris
> 

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