On 19/02/2009, at 12:37 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:


On 19/02/2009, at 9:20 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote:


Who says the IPv6 solutions need to be better than IPv4?

Actually, with IPv6 I'd like _a_ solution that at least is viable and works - it's doesn't have to be the final one, it doesn't have to even be as good as IPv4, it just has to be able to be productized for delivery to real customers like my mum and dad and not the 1337- g33ks from Planet Geekdom.

Given it's 2009 and IPv6 has been around, for, well, sometime, I find it as someone trying to implement IPv6 on a large general scale for broadband that there's still a lot of "proposals", "drafts", general misunderstanding and turf wars over basic stuff like how the heck we're going to give IPv6 addresses to broadband customers.

I understand that there are lot of people reading this who've spent time and effort trying to make forward progress and I salute you all, but come on - let's try and make this work so that all the lovely IPv6 stuff can be given to the masses rather than forcing us to spend our lives squabbling about how evil NAT is at an SP level.

Does anyone here _really_ want Geoff Houston to be right about deploying IPv6?


From other discussion with you, your main concern is vendor support for a few things, right?

It might be a good idea to socialise these problems so we can get lots of people pushing vendors - even if they do not have as immediate requirements as you do, they will want to have the problems removed so when they *do* have immediate requirements they can go ahead and get it working.

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Nathan Ward


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