Hello Amir,

On 5/18/19 1:08 PM, Amir Herzberg wrote:
This discussion is very interesting, I didn't know about this problem, it has implications to our work on routing security, thanks!

Your welcome..., since long time ago I wanted to expose our findings in English.



On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 11:37 AM Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaal...@gmail.com <mailto:alejandroacostaal...@gmail.com>> wrote:


       If you learn, let's say, up to /22 (v4), and someone hijacks
    one /21
    you will learn the legitimate prefix and the hijacked prefix. Now,
    the
    owner of the legitimate prefix wants to defends their routes
    announcing
    /23 or /24, of course those prefixes won't be learnt if they are
    filtered.


I wonder if this really is a consideration to avoid filtering small prefixes (e.g. /24):


My position is exactly the opposite.



- attackers are quite likely to  do sub-prefix hijacks (or say a specific /24), so I'm not sure this `hits' defenders more than it `hits' attackers


Yes, you are right, but anyhow -IMHO- this still better than not learning small prefixes at all.


- I think we're talking only/mostly about small providers here, right? as larger providers probably will not have such problems of tables exceeding router resources.I expect such small providers normally connect thru several tier-2 or so providers... if these upper-tier providers get hijacked, the fact you've prevented this at the stub/multihome ISP may not help much - we showed how this happens with ROV in our NDSS paper on it: https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss2017/ndss-2017-programme/are-we-there-yet-rpkis-deployment-and-security/

You are right here.

Thanks for the link, I will take a look.


Alejandro,



Amir Herzberg
Comcast professor for security innovation
Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering, University of Connecticut

Foundations of Cybersecurity: https://www.researchgate.net/project/Lecture-notes-on-Introduction-to-Cyber-Security

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