Thank you, Mike. From an outsider, I don’t have any information of an ISP’s traffic numbers. And this may be confidential unless we are using any measurement platform, which CAIDA is doing. To get a rough idea about any ISP’s traffic outbound:inbound ratio I can only see it's PeeringDB label. But, the question is whether there is any community decided values against these labels? Like, 1:2 = Balanced 1:5 = Mostly Inbound 1:10 = Heavy Inbound 10:1 = Heavy Outbound I just came up with these values. They don’t mean anything. I don’t have any solid evidence or source to support them. So, my question is, what people actually use? Or, it totally depends on the ISPs and they vary.
- Prasun Regards, Prasun Kanti Dey Ph.D. Candidate, Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering, University of Central Florida web: https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/ > On Jun 19, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > Yes, you seem to misunderstand (at least of what I understand). PeeringDB has > categories of ratios to choose from. What has the community decided is > acceptable ratios for each category? It's fairly trivial for any network to > determine what their ratio is as a number, but not necessarily as a PeeringDB > label. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "Prasun Dey" <pra...@nevada.unr.edu> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:23:33 PM > Subject: Re: Traffic ratio of an ISP > > >my question was more like to understand when an ISP decides to claim itself > >as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or Balanced) > > Maybe I'm missing something but it's as simple as looking at the interface > graphs. We see a whole lot of green for inbound and a little little blue > line for outbound. We are an ISP with residential and commercial customers. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:20 PM Prasun Dey <pra...@nevada.unr.edu > <mailto:pra...@nevada.unr.edu>> wrote: > Hi Martijn and Josh, > Thank you for your detailed explanation. Let me explain my requirement so > that you may help me better. > According to PeeringDB, Charter (Access), Sprint (Transit), Amazon (Content) > all three of them are ‘Balanced’. While, Cable One, an Access ISP says it is > Heavy Inbound, while Akamai, Netflix (Content) are Heavy Outbound. On the > other hand, Cox, another access ISP, it says that it is Mostly Inbound. > So, my question was more like to understand when an ISP decides to claim > itself as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or Balanced)? From an ISP’s > own point of view, at what point, it says, my outbound:inbound is something, > so I’m Heavy Outbound. > Please ignore my lack of knowledge in this area. I’m sorry I should’ve done a > better job in formulating my question earlier. > Thank you. > > - > Prasun > > Regards, > Prasun Kanti Dey > Ph.D. Candidate, > Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering, > University of Central Florida > web: https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/ > <https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/> > > > > > > On Jun 19, 2019, at 2:13 PM, i3D.net <http://i3d.net/> - Martijn Schmidt > <martijnschm...@i3d.net <mailto:martijnschm...@i3d.net>> wrote: > > It kinda depends on the application that's being used. For example, > videogaming has a ratio somewhere around 1:2.5 since you're only transmitting > metadata about the players environment across the wire. The actual video is > typically rendered at the end user's side. So it's not very bandwidth heavy. > > Compare that with a videostream (watching a movie or TV series) and you're > pumping the rendered video across the wire, so there's a very different > ratio. Your return path traffic would pretty much consist of control stuff > only (like pushing the pause button). > > Some networks are dedicated to serving one type of content, whereas others > might have a blend of different kinds of content. Same story for an access > network geared to business users which want to use emails and such, vs > residential end users looking for the evening's entertainment. > > Best regards, > Martijn > > On 19 June 2019 19:54:45 CEST, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: > If you're asking an ISP, consumers will always be inbound. It's the end > user. The outbound would be where the information is coming from, like data > centers. > > I'm not sure you're going to get any better answer without a more specific > question. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:50 PM Prasun Dey <pra...@nevada.unr.edu > <mailto:pra...@nevada.unr.edu>> wrote: > Hello, > Good morning. > I’m a Ph.D. candidate from University of Central Florida. I have a query, I > hope you can help me with it or at least point me to the right direction. > I’ve seen from PeeringDB that every ISP reveals its traffic ratio as Heavy/ > Mostly Inbound or Balanced or Heavy/ Mostly Outbound. > I’m wondering if there is any specific ratio numbers for them. In Norton’s > Internet Peering Playbook or some other literary work, they mention the > outbound:inbound traffic ratio as 1:1.2 to up to 1:3 for Balanced. But, I > couldn’t find the other values. > I’d really appreciate your help if you can please mention what > Outbound:Inbound ratios that network admins use frequently to represent their > traffic ratios for > 1. Heavy Inbound: > 2. Mostly Inbound: > 3. Mostly Outbound: > 4. Heavy Outbound: > > Thank you. > - > Prasun > -- > Sincerely, > Prasun Kanti Dey, > Ph.D. candidate, > Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering, > University of Central Florida. > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
