Why would you think that "Heavy Inbound" signifies a greater inbound:oubound ratio compared to "Mostly Inbound"?
To me "Heavy Inbound" means that there is more inbound than outbound and "Mostly Inbound" means exactly that -- mostly/usually/exclusively inbound with the occasional outbound byte or two. --- The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. >-----Original Message----- >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Prasun Dey >Sent: Wednesday, 19 June, 2019 15:33 >To: Mike Hammett >Cc: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: Traffic ratio of an ISP > >Thank you, Mike. >From an outsider, I don’t have any information of an ISP’s traffic >numbers. And this may be confidential unless we are using any >measurement platform, which CAIDA is doing. To get a rough idea about >any ISP’s traffic outbound:inbound ratio I can only see it's >PeeringDB label. But, the question is whether there is any community >decided values against these labels? >Like, >1:2 = Balanced >1:5 = Mostly Inbound >1:10 = Heavy Inbound >10:1 = Heavy Outbound >I just came up with these values. They don’t mean anything. I don’t >have any solid evidence or source to support them. So, my question >is, what people actually use? Or, it totally depends on the ISPs and >they vary. > >- >Prasun > >Regards, >Prasun Kanti Dey >Ph.D. Candidate, >Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering, >University of Central Florida >web: https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/ > > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> >wrote: > > Yes, you seem to misunderstand (at least of what I understand). >PeeringDB has categories of ratios to choose from. What has the >community decided is acceptable ratios for each category? It's fairly >trivial for any network to determine what their ratio is as a number, >but not necessarily as a PeeringDB label. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> ><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> ><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> ><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> ><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> ><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> ><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > >________________________________ > > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "Prasun Dey" <pra...@nevada.unr.edu> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:23:33 PM > Subject: Re: Traffic ratio of an ISP > > > >my question was more like to understand when an ISP decides to >claim itself as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or Balanced) > > Maybe I'm missing something but it's as simple as looking at the >interface graphs. We see a whole lot of green for inbound and a >little little blue line for outbound. We are an ISP with residential >and commercial customers. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:20 PM Prasun Dey ><pra...@nevada.unr.edu> wrote: > > > Hi Martijn and Josh, > Thank you for your detailed explanation. Let me explain my >requirement so that you may help me better. > According to PeeringDB, Charter (Access), Sprint >(Transit), Amazon (Content) all three of them are ‘Balanced’. While, >Cable One, an Access ISP says it is Heavy Inbound, while Akamai, >Netflix (Content) are Heavy Outbound. On the other hand, Cox, another >access ISP, it says that it is Mostly Inbound. > So, my question was more like to understand when an ISP >decides to claim itself as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or >Balanced)? From an ISP’s own point of view, at what point, it says, >my outbound:inbound is something, so I’m Heavy Outbound. > Please ignore my lack of knowledge in this area. I’m sorry >I should’ve done a better job in formulating my question earlier. > Thank you. > > > - > Prasun > > Regards, > Prasun Kanti Dey > Ph.D. Candidate, > Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering, > University of Central Florida > web: https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/ > > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 2019, at 2:13 PM, i3D.net ><http://i3d.net/> - Martijn Schmidt <martijnschm...@i3d.net> wrote: > > It kinda depends on the application that's being >used. For example, videogaming has a ratio somewhere around 1:2.5 >since you're only transmitting metadata about the players environment >across the wire. The actual video is typically rendered at the end >user's side. So it's not very bandwidth heavy. > > Compare that with a videostream (watching a movie or >TV series) and you're pumping the rendered video across the wire, so >there's a very different ratio. Your return path traffic would pretty >much consist of control stuff only (like pushing the pause button). > > Some networks are dedicated to serving one type of >content, whereas others might have a blend of different kinds of >content. Same story for an access network geared to business users >which want to use emails and such, vs residential end users looking >for the evening's entertainment. > > Best regards, > Martijn > > > On 19 June 2019 19:54:45 CEST, Josh Luthman ><j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > > If you're asking an ISP, consumers will always >be inbound. It's the end user. The outbound would be where the >information is coming from, like data centers. > > I'm not sure you're going to get any better >answer without a more specific question. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:50 PM Prasun Dey ><pra...@nevada.unr.edu> wrote: > > > Hello, > Good morning. > I’m a Ph.D. candidate from University of >Central Florida. I have a query, I hope you can help me with it or at >least point me to the right direction. > I’ve seen from PeeringDB that every ISP >reveals its traffic ratio as Heavy/ Mostly Inbound or Balanced or >Heavy/ Mostly Outbound. > I’m wondering if there is any specific >ratio numbers for them. In Norton’s Internet Peering Playbook or some >other literary work, they mention the outbound:inbound traffic ratio >as 1:1.2 to up to 1:3 for Balanced. But, I couldn’t find the other >values. > I’d really appreciate your help if you > can >please mention what Outbound:Inbound ratios that network admins use >frequently to represent their traffic ratios for > 1. Heavy Inbound: > 2. Mostly Inbound: > 3. Mostly Outbound: > 4. Heavy Outbound: > > Thank you. > - > Prasun > -- > > Sincerely, > Prasun Kanti Dey, > Ph.D. candidate, > Dept. of Electrical and Computer >Engineering, > University of Central Florida. > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please >excuse my brevity. >
