“They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing 
through it.”

Mike, I’d have agreed with you - 15 years ago. Is this current at all?  My 
views on Cogent have evolved dramatically over the years.  How recent is your 
data?

-Ben

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The argument has been listed numerous times so i didn’t want to bore people:
> 
> 1. Sprint peering battle. Google it
> 2. He.net peering battle. Google it.
> 3. Google IPv6 peering battle. Google it.
> 
> All of which point to them being pompous assholes.
> 
> They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing 
> through it.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 15:59, Stephen M. <stephen.mys...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Please don’t praise or complain like we’re supposed to take it at a total 
>> face value. If you don’t like them so much - we are you’re audience. 
>> Explain. 
>> 
>> If you like Cogent - explain.
>> If you don’t like Cogent - explain.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Stephen
>> 
>> //please pardon any brevities - sent from mobile//
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whenever asked about Cogent, i just say, “Friends don’t let friends use 
>>> Cogent.”
>>> 
>>> I’ve told two of their reps over the past two years that even if the 
>>> service was free, i wouldn’t use it. And yet, they still call.
>>> 
>>> -Mike
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 13:53, Ronald F. Guilmette <r...@tristatelogic.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In message <e814e5f6-f386-4aae-bada-e423d299a...@delong.com>, 
>>>>> Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Given their practice of harvesting whois updates in order to spam newly
>>>>> acquired AS contacts, any time it is my decision, Cogent is ineligible
>>>>> as a vendor.
>>>> 
>>>> So I guess then that their aiding and abetting of fraud and IP block
>>>> theft, as I documented here recently, is an entirely secondary concern...
>>>> as long as they don't spam you, yes?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> rfg

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