On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:23 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzme...@nic.fr>
wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 12:11:32PM +0200,
>  Jeroen Massar <jer...@massar.ch> wrote
>  a message of 101 lines which said:
>
> >  - Using a centralized/forced-upon DNS service (be that over DoT/DoH
> >  or even plain old Do53
>
> Yes, but people using a public DNS resolver (of a big US corporation)
> over UDP is quite an old thing and nobody complained. I really wonder
> why there was so little reaction against OpenDNS or Google Public DNS
> and suddently a lot of outcry against DoH...
>

There is only a reaction to changing the defaults of millions of users to
key internet infrastructure.

As Mao Zedong said, let a thousand flowers bloom. It only got messy when it
turned out everyone effectively could only have 1.



> > You might also want to look into this amazing thing called Tor if
> > you really want privacy.
>
> I know it, and use it and it is awfully slow. Telling to people who
> want privacy that they need to adopt the difficult and costly (in
> performance) solutions made for iranian opponents won't help to
> improve security.
>
> > Noting that many ISPs are deploying both DoT and DoH next to Do53.
>
> Fact-checking: could you name some? (I do not know even one.)
>

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