On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 6:10 AM Bjørn Mork <[email protected]> wrote: > > Julien Goodwin <[email protected]> writes: > > On 20/10/19 11:08 pm, Bjørn Mork wrote: > >> Hank Nussbacher <[email protected]> writes: > >>> On 07/10/2019 17:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > >>>> On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 03:52:26PM -0400, > >>>> Phil Pishioneri <[email protected]> wrote > >>>> a message of 9 lines which said: > >>>> > >>>>> Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing > >>>>> UMass Amherst researchers to use cloud-based ‘logically centralized > >>>>> control’ > >>>> Executive summary: it's SDN for BGP. Centralizing Internet routing, > >>>> what could go wrong? (As the authors say, "One reason is there is no > >>>> single entity that has a big picture of what is going on, no > >>>> manager". I wonder who will be Internet's manager.) > >>>> > >>> Centralized Internet routing - sounds like DoH for BGP. > >> > >> Great idea! Why don't we just run BGP over HTTPS? Everyone already has > >> a browser, so we can get rid of all these expensive routers. > > > > IMO BGP over TLS actually makes a bunch of sense, > > Absolutely. And so does DNS over TLS. A lot of sense. > > But if you start encoding the BGP protocol data in the TLS session as > HTTP so you can tunnel it over a shared 443 port to some distant > endpoint, and even traverse HTTP proxies, then it would look like a > joke. > > Or in the DoH case, would make you wish it was a joke.
isn't julien's idea more akin to DOT then DOH ?
