On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:03 PM Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 23, 2020, at 16:50 , Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 6:53 PM Sabri Berisha <sa...@cluecentral.net> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> In my experience, yubikeys are not very secure. I know of someone in my > >> team who would generate a few hundred tokens during a meeting and save the > >> output in a text file. Then they'd have a small python script which was > >> triggered by a hotkey on my macbook to push "keyboard" input. They did > >> this because the org they were working for would make you use yubikey auth > >> for pretty much everything, including updating a simple internal Jira > >> ticket. > > > > By that argument, SecureID (and other LCD tokens) are also really > > insecure. When I worked at AOL we had to use them for almost > > everything - a bunch of people got together and put their secureIDs in > > a grid under a webcam. That way they didn't need to carry them with > > them - when they needed a token they would open the webcam page, and > > know that theirs was third down, and fourth across…. > > Not actually, no… > > SecurID and the others of its ilk have a safety feature in that the number > doesn’t change that often. > > It turns out to be awkward and time-consuming to do what is being done with > the UBIKEY.
Not if you run it in TOTP mode. Yubikeys support many options - if you choose to use a weak solution, well that's your choice... I guess you could ask them nicely to make a version without the features you don't want to use - or you could just not *use* the features you don't want to use.... > > I agree that this abuse of the UBI Key is more an issue of implementation > than the inherent nature of the > UBIKEY, but the UBIKEY does allow this kind of abuse in ways that other > tokens don’t facilitate. That's like saying that cars are worse than bicycles, because cars allow you drive into things are a more dangerous speed. I mean, yes, but .... W > > Owen > > -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
