Yes, are you having trouble understanding that? Even if we suppose a world 
where you are the absolute king of all RIRs plus IANA *and* majority 
shareholder of all commercial entities you have envisioned for your round 
table, it would still not work.

I'd pay to see that unfold in a VR simulation though, A+ entertainment :D

-- 
Regards,
   Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy
     Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V.

Please quote relevant replies.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elad Cohen <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:01 PM
> To: Terrence Koeman <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> 
> "actually be implemented, even in theory"
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Terrence Koeman
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:58 PM
> To: Elad Cohen; David Hubbard; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> 
> 
> You're welcome :) And don't worry I already have posted it on social
> media.
> 
> 
> I don't believe there is any danger of your "solutions" being mistaken for
> something that can actually be implemented, even in theory.
> 
> 
> If there was we would have larger issues than just the resource drain and
> time-wasting of trying to forcefully implement comically unrealistic
> "solutions". None of which are abated by suppression of your "solutions"
> or discussion of them.
> 
> 
> In fact, if people that believe you're a genius and that your "solutions"
> merit implementation exist in positions where they can actually effect an
> attempt to implement them (causing certain resource drain and time-
> wasting), it's best we know about it sooner rather than later.
> 
> 
> --
> Regards,
>    Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy
>      Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V.
> 
> Please quote relevant replies.
> Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone.
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Elad Cohen <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 21:16
> To: Terrence Koeman; David Hubbard; [email protected]
> Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> 
> 
> 
>       Thank you for publishing it, please post also in your social
> accounts.
> 
> 
>       ________________________________
>       From: NANOG on behalf of Terrence Koeman
>       Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:54 PM
>       To: David Hubbard; [email protected]
>       Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> 
> 
>       If you thought IPv4+ was entertaining, check out his "solution" to
> packet spoofing:
> 
> 
>       https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-
> April/003902.html
> 
> 
>       And SPAM:
> 
> 
>       https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-
> April/003778.html
> 
> 
>       These should be submitted as RFCs, but on April 1st next year :)
> 
> 
>       This could only be funnier if he wasn't dead serious and attempting
> to gain power in RIPE right at this moment. Never in my life have I
> encountered such an obvious and clear example of the Dunning-Kruger
> effect[1]. He's entrenched right at the peak of "Mount Stupid"[2] (he
> appears committed to building a tower there).
> 
> 
>       Ref:
> 
>       [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
> 
>       [2]
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger
> _Effect_01.svg
> 
>       --
>       Regards,
>          Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy
>            Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V.
> 
>       Please quote relevant replies.
>       Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone.
>       ________________________________
>       From: David Hubbard <[email protected]>
>       Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:19
>       To: [email protected]
>       Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> 
> 
>       LOL the IPv4+ thing was a pretty entertaining read.  You clearly
> don’t have even a basic understanding of the v4 packet structure, or that
> the octet display concept is simply for human benefit.  IPv6 can be
> implemented with ‘software updates’ too…
> 
>       From: NANOG <[email protected]> on behalf of Elad Cohen
> <[email protected]>
>       Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 9:47 AM
>       To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]>
>       Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> 
>       Hello Everyone,
> 
>       My apology for not providing an official response to the first "The
> Ronald Show" that took place here many months ago, I was out of hospital
> after full anesthesia and it took me months to get back to myself.
> 
>       What was done towards me and what being done to me by Ronald is an
> intentional personal attack against me and I will explain.
> 
>       I didn't agree to provide private business documents to the illegal
> anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" that they tried to extort
> from me - then I found out who are the real people behind the illegal
> anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - and then they started to
> attack me (including here on Nanog, with false information, when I was out
> of hospital and wasn't in the condition to respond to them).
> 
>       "The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous organization
> according to their own words in their own following presentation:
> 
>       https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-
> Data-Violation
> 
>       They wrote in it that they receive on a regular basis - massive
> amount of illegaly-obtained privacy data from their contacts in many
> internet companies and internet organizations - and then they share it in
> illegal way (without any warrant) with Law Enforcement Agencies - this is
> the reason that Law Enforcement Agencies are doing nothing regarding the
> illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project".
> 
>       Ronald Guilmette is the front person of the illegal anonymous
> organization "The Spamhaus Project".
> 
> 
>       ----
>       and that said legal counsel has then
>       proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town,
>       South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish
>       to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block
>       ----
>       This is a complete lie, in order to shame CoCT I will not share
> their internal correspondences. Anyone interested to know more information
> can email me directly.
> 
> 
>       ----
>       "I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell,
> trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block"
>       ----
>       Ronald is "assured" exactly as he is "assured" that all Dutch people
> are criminals and all Colombian network oeprators are criminals and all
> Chicago citizens are criminals according to his statements in the
> following links:
>       https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX
>       https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ
>       https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz
> 
>       Ronald was called an antisemitic and a racist person here on Nanog
> in the following two links, by people which are not related to me:
>       https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk
>       https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz
> 
> 
>       In the first "The Ronald Show" many months ago - Ronald called me in
> two antisemitic names that are being used to relate to Jews in Shakespeare
> literature (just like Ronald is relating to Shakespeare in
> https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX ) - as part of his defamation campaign towards
> me - none of you raised a voice and not only that but some Nanog
> subscribers enjoyed his racism and antisemitism (without a single proof
> against me) as was written here by them (with a popcorn).
> 
>       The "source" in "The Spamhaus Project" that supported and pumped
> Ronald Imagination is the criminal of the anonymous twitter account:
> https://twitter.com/underthebreach , that person according to his own
> words in his own criminal anonymous twitter account - is a master of cyber
> influence operations (meaning to influence people without a single proof)
> - that person is also an employee of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge and
> they are a direct competitor of a company that used the netblocks that
> Ronald attacked - not only that but Ronald also attacked another Israeli-
> based company called Divineworks (here in Nanog) and they are also a
> direct competitor of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge. What was done here
> is a cyber influence operation without a single proof because of a
> business competition.
> 
>       That criminal https://twitter.com/underthebreach which is a member
> of "The Spamhaus Project" and pumped Ronald Imagination - is not the only
> person which is abusing the power of "The Spamhaus Project" for
> commericial goals, that are many many more people and companies behind the
> illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which are making
> profit from it, for example:
> 
>       - Vincent Schonau from Open-Xchange (AKA "Vincenet Hanna" of "The
> Spamhaus Project") that "The Spamhaus Project" is attacking the
> competitors of Open-Xchange.
>       - Laura Atkins from WordToTheWise which is selling a Spamhaus
> listing removal service (https://wordtothewise.com)
> 
>       Real identities behind "The Spamhaus Project":
> 
>       "Mike Anderson" - Michael O'Reirdan (Chairman Emeritus of W3AAWG)
> and Professor Ross Anderson from Cambridge university (both known as "Mike
> Anderson" of "The Spamhaus Project")
>       "Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen (https://www.invaluement.com/)
>       "Thomas Morrison" - Daniel R. Thomas
> (https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/)
>       "Pete Dawes" - Ildiko Pete (https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/)
>       "Vincent Hanna" -  Vincent Schonau of Open-Xchange
> (https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/)
>       "Milly Fawcett" - Kelly Molloy of FarSight Security
> (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/)
>       Among others.
> 
>       Companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus
> Project":
>       ThreatSTOP
>       FarSight Security
>       Fastly
>       Dyn
>       Cymru
>       Abusix
>       Among others.
> 
> 
>       Regarding the article that Ronald shared, in it there is clearly
> written:
> 
>       "It must be noted that Cohen is not being accused of any illegal
> activity in this report."
> 
>       But it doesn't change the fact that the article was clearly written
> only for Ronald to be able to post it and to proceed with the illegal
> "cyber influence operation" to attack me without a single proof. The
> article was written by the instruction of the "The Spamhaus Project" mob
> and then Ronald made this post according to the instruction from "The
> Spamhaus Project" mob. A coordinated illegal "cyber influence operation"
> without a single proof.
> 
> 
>       Many subscribers of the Nanog list are members of the illegal
> anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - Ronald Guilmette is just
> their front clown - expect many of them to jump now and to defame me here
> without a single proof (because this is how the illegal anonynous
> organization "The Spamhaus Project" works) - and you can ask them a simple
> single question - "show us a single proof" - and - "if you cannot show us
> a single proof then please stop spamming the mailing list".
> 
>       Ronald at the end of his post keep spreading lies and writing:
>       "less than honorable intent reach for power"
>       "to persons with an interest only in what is best for them
> personally, to the exclusion of all else"
>       "Democracy dies in darkness."
> 
>       When in reality I invented three new pantets for the best of the
> whole Internet community and I will work to implement them if I will be
> elected:
> 
>       IPv4+ that will mitigate the "IPv4 Exhaustion" problem and will add
> more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses: (can be implemented with software
> updates and not all internet hosts in the world will have to be updated -
> home routers and home modems which are the vast majority of routing
> equipment in the world - will not need to be updated and will support more
> 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses with IPv4+ )
>       https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-
> April/003676.html
> 
>       Completely mitigating the global email spam problem in a clean and
> automatic way: (and also mitigating the illegal anonymous organization
> "The Spamhaus Project")
>       https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-
> April/003778.html
> 
>       Completely mitigating spoofed ip amplification DDoS attacks and
> spoofed ip traffic with is a source for criminality:
>       https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-
> April/003902.html
> 
>       They ("The Spamhaus Project" mob) wants to keep controlling RIPE and
> any other internet organizations - I want to liberate RIPE - I want to
> make sure that that illegal anonymous organization that violates any thing
> which is sacred in the Interent (freedom, free speech and connectivity) -
> will have no footprint in RIPE.
> 
>       My full agenda can be read here:
>       https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-
> 2020/candidate-biographies#elad_cohen
> 
>       Ronald is afraid from me being elected because he knows that if I
> will be elected I will put an end to the illgal anonymous organization
> "The Spamhaus Project" which is intimidating and harassing many
> organizations and many businesses worldwide.
> 
>       Kind Regards,
>       Elad
>       ________________________________
>       From: NANOG <[email protected]> on behalf of Ronald F.
> Guilmette <[email protected]>
>       Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:50 PM
>       To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>       Subject: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> 
>       Many of you here may be dues-paying members of both ARIN and RIPE.
> 
>       Those of you who are may wish to be aware of the fact that there
> will
>       be an election held on (I believe) May 14th, just a day or two from
>       now, for three open RIPE NCC Executive Board seats.
> 
>       I have it on good authority that one of the candidates running for
>       the open RIPE NCC board seats in this election has hired legal
>       counsel in South Africa, and that said legal counsel has then
>       proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town,
>       South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish
>       to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block, a
>       block that all historical records, including even ARIN "WhoWas"
>       historical records show, clearly and unambiguously, has been
>       legally registered to the City of Cape Town for over twenty years.
>       (I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell,
>       trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block,
>       and that they are defending themselves, as best as they can, against
>       this attempt to extort them out of their rightful prooperty.)
> 
>       Where I come from, this kind of thing is called barratry, but you
>       be the judge.
> 
>       In any case, prior to the RIPE election, I wanted to let you all
>       know these facts about the candidate in question, as well as a
>       number of additional startling facts relating to the people who
>       nominated this candidate for a RIPE NCC Executive board seat, as
>       documented by my friend, South African journalist Jan Vermeulen:
> 
>       https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to-
> african-ip-address-heist-running-for-board-position-at-european-ip-
> address-organisation.html
> 
>       I could go into more detail about many of the nominators mentioned
>       in the above article, but I don't want to make this email too long,
>       so I'll await some explict request for that additional info.  For
> now
>       it should suffice to make at least some of the basic facts more
> widely
>       available, a task which is accomplished just by sharing the above
> link,
>       IMHO.
> 
> 
>       Regards,
>       rfg
> 
> 
>       P.S.  I have been specifically and explicitly enjoined and
> constrained
>       from posting here anything at all that might smack of being either
>       partisan or of an even vaguely "political" nature, and thus, I will
>       refrain from doing so.  I would be remiss hoever if I did not at
> least
>       note in passing that history records that in times such as these,
> when
>       people of good character and good intent are, as they rightly should
> be,
>       focused on the health and safety of themselves, their loved ones,
> and
>       their professional collegues, and when the gaze of the world is
> elsewhere,
>       persons of less than honorable intent reach for power and, with
> unfortunate
>       regularity, obtain it.
> 
>       I cannot and do not ask that those of you who have been saddled with
>       personal or local crises during this sad time turn away from those
>       responsibilities to give attention to matters of Internet
> governance,
>       however urgent those may appear at the moment.  For all of us, our
> first-
>       order duty lies nearby, with family, friends, and collegues.  But
> for
>       those of you who still have a few cycles to spare, I do ask that you
>       consider carefully the newfound and critical importance of this
> tool,
>       this Internet, in the lives of so many millions, all around the
> world,
>       and the self-evident risks of its governance being handed over, by
> default
>       or otherwise, to persons with an interest only in what is best for
> them
>       personally, to the exclusion of all else.
> 
>       P.P.S.  I would be posting this info and the above link also to the
>       very relevant RIPE members-discuss mailing list, but as I am not a
>       due-paying member of RIPE, I have no ability to do so.  Separately,
>       due in no small part to the candidate's own recent and manifest on-
> list
>       transgressions on that very list, that list has recently been
> switched
>       to a heavy-handed moderation, under which, it seems, even discussion
> of
>       the pros and cons of candidates in the upcoming RIPE NCC Executive
> Board
>       election are now categorized as "too controversial" and thus,
> themselves,
>       are now entirely off-limits.
> 
>       I cannot help but be reminded of a catch-phrase that I saw
> somewhere,
>       not too long ago:
> 
>                        "Democracy dies in darkness."
>                                         -- anon
> 

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