Matt,

I am running on a huge assumption here, but I think Phoenix-IX runs on donated 
infrastructure. From what I recall, there was only an NRC to join Phoenix-IX.

And in regards to Walt's suggestion, it looks like HE already started one with 
Stellar Technologies. https://48ix.net <https://48ix.net/> but it is only in a 
single facility. So until that IX grows, both in peers and footprint, I'm stuck 
on Phoenix-IX.

I have wondered what happens if a participant storms the IX. Will somebody 
appear? Because attempts to reach their NOC/peering handles has resulted in a 
lack of response.

I also wonder how the other Ninja-IX exchanges are running, I haven't heard 
anything about them, is there the same lack of communication? Or do those have 
a local staff?

—
Kate

> On Nov 10, 2020, at 06:15, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> How is the IX still running?  Surely someone must be paying colo rent?
> 
> On 11/10/20 9:03 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>> Always a good time for network operators to consider the risks of having any 
>> one person as a single point of failure for something kind of important:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
>> Disaster recovery and continuity of business plans should always include the 
>> concept of what if some percentage of the key team members were to be 
>> suddenly unavailable permanently (the Malaysian airline incident, for 
>> example).
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:08 PM Kate Gerry <kge...@outlook.com 
>> <mailto:kge...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>    Is there anybody else even there? I thought that it was all Paul's show!
>>    If I was able to (as in, had access to), I would offer to help/run
>>    with the IX. I may live in California, but it's a realistic car trip
>>    back and forth to Phoenix.
>>    --
>>    Kate
>>>    On Nov 9, 2020, at 17:58, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net
>>>    <mailto:na...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Paul's LinkedIn seems to show that he checked out in April. Let me
>>>    know if you have any success reaching anyone there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    -----
>>>    Mike Hammett
>>>    Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>    
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>    Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>    
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>    The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>    
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>    *From:*"Kate Gerry" <kge...@outlook.com <mailto:kge...@outlook.com>>
>>>    *To:*"Bill Woodcock" <wo...@pch.net <mailto:wo...@pch.net>>
>>>    *Cc:*nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
>>>    *Sent:*Monday, November 9, 2020 5:44:42 PM
>>>    *Subject:*Re: Phoenix-IX Contact
>>> 
>>>    Just a heads-up, I never heard a word from anybody at Phoenix-IX.
>>> 
>>>    Is there anybody still running the IX? Or is it just on autopilot?
>>>    It'd be nice if anybody had some information on whatever happened
>>>    to Paul. Hopefully he is okay!
>>> 
>>>    --
>>>    Kate
>>> 
>>>        On Sep 14, 2020, at 13:33, Kate Gerry <kge...@outlook.com
>>>        <mailto:kge...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>        Thank Bill! I've been trying to reach Paul for ages now,
>>>        hopefully he pops back up again. We want to upgrade.
>>> 
>>>        On an unrelated note, it looks like somebody has their ticket
>>>        system subscribed to the list... Awesome.
>>> 
>>>            *From: *Dating Support <dating.supp...@csvwebsupport.com
>>>            <mailto:dating.supp...@csvwebsupport.com>>
>>>            *Subject: **[#WQV-291-95071]: Phoenix-IX Contact*
>>>            *Date: *September 14, 2020 at 12:43:20 PDT
>>>            *To: *kge...@outlook.com <mailto:kge...@outlook.com>
>>>            *Reply-To: *dating.supp...@csvwebsupport.com
>>>            <mailto:dating.supp...@csvwebsupport.com>
>>> 
>>>            Kate Gerry,
>>> 
>>>            Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response
>>>            confirming the receipt of your ticket. Our team will get
>>>            back to you within 24 hours.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>        --
>>>        Kate
>>> 
>>> 
>>>            On Sep 14, 2020, at 12:48, Bill Woodcock <wo...@pch.net
>>>            <mailto:wo...@pch.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                On Sep 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Kate Gerry
>>>                <kge...@outlook.com <mailto:kge...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>                Does anybody have a contact who works at Phoenix-IX? I
>>>                have been attempting to reach somebody there for a
>>>                while now without any luck.
>>> 
>>>                Attempts to each out topeer...@phoenix-ix.net
>>>                <mailto:peer...@phoenix-ix.net>as well as Ninja-IX
>>>                have been without any luck. We also tried reaching out
>>>                to Paul Emmons via LinkedIn mail and never received a
>>>                response.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>            Paul is the correct person.
>>> 
>>>                                           -Bill

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