Great news! Paul is attempting to respond! His email, including NANOG bounce is included below.
Paul, thanks for reaching out! — Kate ## > On Nov 16, 2020, at 12:32, Paul Emmons <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry to blast everyone that posted, But I guess I am still awaiting > moderator approval to post. > > Your mail to 'NANOG' with the subject > > Re: Phoenix-IX Contact > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > > Post to moderated list > I swear everytime I try to do something about the IX it gets . . . squashed. > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: Phoenix-IX Contact > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 13:03:58 -0700 > From: Paul Emmons <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > Hello All! > > I've been out of the loop here and but have some updates. > > There was a change last spring and I moved on to other projects. But that > hasn't worked out for the IX. > > I have regained access to all of the elements, including the email and voip. > Let me reach out to each of you offline in the coming days. > > I have been able to reach out to a few locals that are willing to help get > the project back up to where it needs to be. > > If I haven;t reached out to you in the next 48 hours or you have something > urgent, please reach out to me here (my personal email) or via the Phoenix-IX > Contacts > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > +1 602 688-6414 > > ~Paul Emmons ### > On Nov 16, 2020, at 11:23, Neil Hanlon <[email protected]> wrote: > > While I agree it is objectively irresponsible to abandon a project without > passing it to another, I think that possibly in this situation we don't know > all the details? > > 2020 has been a difficult year for everyone. Perhaps Paul (and whomever else > may be responsible for Phoenix-IX) were subject to things this year beyond > their control which led them to be unable to work on the project and unable > to transfer it, either.. unfortunate, yes.. but not malicious surely. > > If Paul _is_ reading these messages.. I think support is the best path > forward.. If there are things that can be done to assist/take over the IX... > maybe that would help (as you, Kate, had offered towards the beginning of > this all). Though of course, the first step is _reaching_ them... Maybe this > can be turned into a "win" for everyone. So: Paul/Phoenix-IX -- let the NANOG > community know how they/we can help. > > -- > Neil > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Kate Gerry <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > An update on my side, we reached out to PhoenixNAP, one of the Phoenix-IX's > vendors. > > PhoenixNAP reached out all of their contacts at Phoenix-IX and have received > no response. They are in as much of the dark as the rest of us. I feel like > I'm on the Ghost ship Phoenix-IX. > > What I don't understand, is how somebody could abandon a project without > passing it to another person or entity. This is extremely irresponsible. > > — > Kate > >> On Nov 12, 2020, at 05:11, Marcus Josephson <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I tried to get a link to PHX-IX for months. Never heard back from them, went >> with Digital Realty Phoenix >> >> >> From: NANOG <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Kate Gerry >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 11:06 AM >> To: Matt Hoppes <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> list <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: Re: Phoenix-IX Contact >> >> Matt, >> >> I am running on a huge assumption here, but I think Phoenix-IX runs on >> donated infrastructure. From what I recall, there was only an NRC to join >> Phoenix-IX. >> >> And in regards to Walt's suggestion, it looks like HE already started one >> with Stellar Technologies. https://48ix.net <https://48ix.net/> but it is >> only in a single facility. So until that IX grows, both in peers and >> footprint, I'm stuck on Phoenix-IX. >> >> I have wondered what happens if a participant storms the IX. Will somebody >> appear? Because attempts to reach their NOC/peering handles has resulted in >> a lack of response. >> >> I also wonder how the other Ninja-IX exchanges are running, I haven't heard >> anything about them, is there the same lack of communication? Or do those >> have a local staff? >> >> — >> Kate >> >> >> On Nov 10, 2020, at 06:15, Matt Hoppes <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> How is the IX still running? Surely someone must be paying colo rent? >> >> On 11/10/20 9:03 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: >> >> Always a good time for network operators to consider the risks of having any >> one person as a single point of failure for something kind of important: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor> >> Disaster recovery and continuity of business plans should always include the >> concept of what if some percentage of the key team members were to be >> suddenly unavailable permanently (the Malaysian airline incident, for >> example). >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:08 PM Kate Gerry <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]%20%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> Is there anybody else even there? I thought that it was all Paul's show! >> If I was able to (as in, had access to), I would offer to help/run >> with the IX. I may live in California, but it's a realistic car trip >> back and forth to Phoenix. >> -- >> Kate >> >> On Nov 9, 2020, at 17:58, Mike Hammett <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> >> wrote: >> >> Paul's LinkedIn seems to show that he checked out in April. Let me >> know if you have any success reaching anyone there. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/ >> <http://www.ics-il.com/>> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb >> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions >> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>><https://twitter.com/ICSIL >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/ >> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange >> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>><https://twitter.com/mdwestix >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ >> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:*"Kate Gerry" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]%20%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> >> *To:*"Bill Woodcock" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]%20%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> >> *Cc:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Sent:*Monday, November 9, 2020 5:44:42 PM >> *Subject:*Re: Phoenix-IX Contact >> >> Just a heads-up, I never heard a word from anybody at Phoenix-IX. >> >> Is there anybody still running the IX? Or is it just on autopilot? >> It'd be nice if anybody had some information on whatever happened >> to Paul. Hopefully he is okay! >> >> -- >> Kate >> >> On Sep 14, 2020, at 13:33, Kate Gerry <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> >> wrote: >> >> Thank Bill! I've been trying to reach Paul for ages now, >> hopefully he pops back up again. We want to upgrade. >> >> On an unrelated note, it looks like somebody has their ticket >> system subscribed to the list... Awesome. >> >> *From: *Dating Support <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> >> *Subject: **[#WQV-291-95071]: Phoenix-IX Contact* >> *Date: *September 14, 2020 at 12:43:20 PDT >> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:*[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Reply-To: *[email protected] >> <mailto:*[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> Kate Gerry, >> >> Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response >> confirming the receipt of your ticket. Our team will get >> back to you within 24 hours. >> >> >> -- >> Kate >> >> >> On Sep 14, 2020, at 12:48, Bill Woodcock <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sep 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Kate Gerry >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]%20%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> Does anybody have a contact who works at Phoenix-IX? I >> have been attempting to reach somebody there for a >> while now without any luck. >> >> Attempts to each out [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>as well as Ninja-IX >> have been without any luck. We also tried reaching out >> to Paul Emmons via LinkedIn mail and never received a >> response. >> >> >> Paul is the correct person. >> >> -Bill >
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