Everyone take a deep breath, calm down, and move on from this thread. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:22 AM Jeff P <[email protected]> wrote:
> I contacted you (and others) off list to avoid a public discussion on a > board dedicated to the discussion of networking to call out your misogynist > comment in a previous post with content that did not further any discussion > relevant to networking... If the admins are interested in the full content > of several messages that Javier J and I exchanged , I will provide the full > email chains to provide context to the single email posted here to any who > contacts me off list. But since you wish to make it a public discussion, I > would like to call attention to your failure to follow the usage guidelines > and code of conduct outlined in the NANOG terms of use as agreed to in > subscribing to this list: > > https://www.nanog.org/about/code-conduct/ > https://www.nanog.org/resources/usage-guidelines/ > > I suggest any one who wants to threaten other users, leave misogynistic > content, or leave irrelevant messages that are simply designed to degrade > others should think twice before they post it on NANOG. And then just not > do it. This is not the forum for that type of conversation. Please take it > to Twitter or Gab or Parler or Facebook or your platform of choice, but > NANOG as founded and conducted is for a technical discussion board for > networking and is not the platform for that kind of content. It is a waste > of time for those of us who are not interested in your opinion of any other > subject not directly related to networking to have to read through a > garbage post only to get slapped in the face with your lack of etiquette or > sense of decorum. We all agreed to the rules, and we should all act > accordingly. > > JeffP > [email protected] > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 10:34 PM Javier J <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Why are you emailing me? >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM Jeff P <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> SEE!?! >>> >>> With no evidence yet publicly acknowledged as to who added the AOC email >>> to the list now they are just accusing some random "A woman!" >>> >>> Words (The Pen) are mightier than any brute force (The Sword). >>> >>> And you did it without thought, just piled on. It came as natural to you >>> as putting on your shoes in the morning. >>> >>> JeffP >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> *Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.* >>> >>> NOTICE: >>> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >>> addressed. Use or dissemination by persons other than the intended >>> recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in >>> error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail to correct our >>> records. Please then delete the original message (including any >>> attachments) in its entirety, including any backup processes that your >>> system may perform. Please note that any views or opinions presented in >>> this email are solely those of the author. Email transmission cannot be >>> guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, >>> corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. >>> The sender, therefore, does not accept liability for any errors or >>> omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of >>> e-mail transmission. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Lorell Hathcock <[email protected]> >>> Date: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:43 PM >>> Subject: Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez' Office is on NANOG?? Or, what is >>> the policy about sharing email offlist? >>> To: Javier J <[email protected]> >>> Cc: nanog <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> A-woman! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Lorell Hathcock >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:36 PM, Javier J <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I agree 100%. >>> >>> I know the emails on this list are public and that is fine. What I >>> don't appreciate is that now my email address is in some politico's address >>> list because of someone's behavior. >>> >>> - Javier >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:20 PM Jon Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> There's a world of difference between "don't expect list posts to be >>>> private to list members" and "don't forward the list to autoresponders." >>>> The stupidity of the latter, if it can be tracked down to who did it, >>>> should result in their removal from the list, at least until they >>>> explain >>>> what caused them to do that and have undone it. >>>> >>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2021, Paul Timmins wrote: >>>> >>>> > The list has public archives. Draw your own conclusions on the policy. >>>> > >>>> > https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/ >>>> > >>>> > On 1/18/21 2:40 PM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: >>>> >> Not under that impression at all. That's very different from "what >>>> is the >>>> >> policy" - at least in the groups I run, if the policy is "no sharing >>>> >> offlist" and then someone does, there are consequences for that >>>> someone. >>>> >> Anne >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law >>>> >> Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School >>>> >> Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal >>>> anti-spam law) >>>> >> Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange >>>> >> Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop >>>> >> Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS) >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route >>>> StackPath, Sr. Neteng | therefore you are >>>> _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________ >>>> >>>

